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Just curious what was the symptoms ......

The reason i am asking i own 06 S2R1000 the other day while i was riding going home from a long ride as am coasting coming to the stop sign i pulled the clutch & then the bike cuts off ..It has been running flawlessly till that incident it started right up and nothing since.. So totally did not think of it much beside that particular ride i got so low in fuel and had to use only one gallon of 87 unleaded w ethanol for the 1st time as i been using 89 ethanol free gas

Upon arriving at the house my son and i siphoned about 1/4-1/2 gallon of that fuel out and Rode to pump to get good ethanol free jazz . As i was browsing today the forums i came across this thread .. I WAS like COME ON hope i don't have to go thru this issue ....
 
Exactly. When it decides to present it always seems to do so at inopportune moments. Fortunately I have multiple bikes so I did the diagnostic described in other posts. My problem was black wire.


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I am assuming you are referring to the black wire in the same bundle shown in the Picture . I guess if any one gets that far it's wise to check all 4 wires ..!
 
Yes. With an ohm meter clipped to both ends of each wire I identified the black wire's short circuit as I manipulated it. I found a California Cycle Works replacement wire harness before they discontinued them and installed it. Now I an researching fixes for my OEM harness.


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Which harness you are referring to ..The internal Fuel pump wiring harness or the Main bike harness .If you already fixed the issue what else you after
 
Took the Duc out for a 2nd run since the shut off incident and i can not get to act up .. I will give it a chance and see .. If it does it once again then tank has to come off . Unless my curiosity gets the best of me between now and then
 
Hey guys, my '06 S2R1k has recently begun having intermittent starting issues. It cranks fine but refuses to fire up. The issue started after an oil change and wash last weekend, so something may have gotten wet that wasn't intended to, perhaps the fuel pump wiring?

Have there been any more developments fixing the fuel pump wiring issue?
 
After more googling, I see that you can get a replacement harness from Ducati for around $140, Part # 51020032A
Confirmed as a proper replacement by CA-Cycleworks.
 

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Hey guys, my '06 S2R1k has recently begun having intermittent starting issues. It cranks fine but refuses to fire up. The issue started after an oil change and wash last weekend, so something may have gotten wet that wasn't intended to, perhaps the fuel pump wiring?

Have there been any more developments fixing the fuel pump wiring issue?
A good place to start would be to listen and verify whether or not the fuel pump is priming when you turn the key to ON. If the fuel pump primes (humming sound) during your failed attempts to start the bike, this may point to something else.

If the pump isn't priming, start probing the wires leading into the fuel pump. If you're seeing 12V across the hot wire to the ground when you turn the key, but the pump isn't turning, then you can probably assume it's something internal to the fuel tank. Maybe the same problem.

The kit from CA-cycleworks seems like a relatively dummy proof fix; however, the majority of the effort seemed to be assembly and reassembly of the fuel tank and pump. Once I got at the wiring, the soldering and repotting was quick, so I figured I'd save the money spent on the harness.
 
I've been having the same issues with my '06 S2R1K, and after a significant amount of research, and discussing with CA-cycleworks, I am in the process of installing a wiring harness from a super bike (1098) in my monster. If anyone is interested in moving to a permanent fix, I recommend contacting Candice/Chris and getting their adaptor.
 
Rebuild fuel pump harness with Ethanol resistant epoxy

I've benefited from many posts on this site and I hope the following might help someone. There's already an excellent post by monster.orgy which helped solve my fuel pump electrical problem. My post is intended to build on that mainly in regards to epoxy material selection.

I bought the bike new (2005 Monster S2R 800) and had no issues. As a testament to battery tenders I didn't need a new battery until 2013. When I bought a new battery, the gas tank had expanded and it wasn't possible to unlatch and swing the tank up to reach the battery. Instead the tank had to be removed by unbolting at the rear hinge. A longer fuel tank hinge support kit was installed by the dealer under special warranty covering the plastic fuel tank expansion defect.

To the point of this post: End of last summer the engine wouldn't start or would die off soon after starting. Then it completely stopped starting even though it cranked powerfully. After reading all the forums I followed this troubleshooting and repair sequence.

1. Does the fuel pump whir audibly when electricity is switched on? I couldn't be sure as I heard some sound. (In retrospect after the repair I know the complete sound wasn't there and what I was hearing could be an intermittent fuel pump.)

2. Does the engine work when engine starter fluid is sprayed directly into the air intakes? Yes it did. This lead me to believe it was a fuel delivery issue.

3. Is electricity reaching the fuel pump as measured outside the tank? Yes. The socket delivering electricity to the fuel pump isn't easy to probe but you can get creative with some wire and a small voltmeter. This meant it was time to take a look at the fuel pump assembly.

4. Empty the tank. I used a piece of clear vinyl tubing to siphon the tank first in the horizontal position and later while holding tank upright to get almost all the fuel out. The clear vinyl tubing was very helpful as I could see the fuel start flowing before accidentally swallowing any!

5. Remove the pump by unbolting the 6 allen screws. This is when I started taking photos of every step so I would know how to put it back together later. I also emptied a bit more remaining fuel and cleaned out some small particles from the tank.

6. Check the resistance of each wire from outside the tank to corresponding color on inside. These go from connector A on outside to either B or C as shown in photo below. The photo shows everything disassembled prior to starting reassembly. I also removed fuel filter to change while at it.

7. I discovered one black ground wire was intermittent when gently tugged. The epoxy was rotten and crumbling easily when scraped with a screw driver and the black wire came loose almost immediately.
The other wires seemed OK but they also came off easily after scraping away all the epoxy. So not only the epoxy was rotten but the solder (unless it was not soldered to begin with) was gone too. It seems to me unlikely that an electrical connection wasn't at least crimped. In either case I decided to solder all 4 joints and then encase the whole thing in Ethanol resistant epoxy.

8. I cleaned using a cotton stick and acetone nail polish remover until satisfied it was ready for soldering.

9. Soldering was quite tricky and I would advise against doing this unless you've done a fair amount of soldering before. Don't forget to clean up excess flux as it is corrosive and to measure the resistance after the soldering is done and before sealing it all up. I accidentally melted through the red live wire and this sent me off to thinking how to reinsulate it to avoid risk of sparking inside the tank! Fortunately the epoxy I would use to fill and encase the joints would also serve as insulation if applied around the wire.

10. I don't know how long a regular two part epoxy would last however given the effort of rebuilding the wiring joints I invested some time researching something that hopefully will resist fuel with Ethanol for a while longer. Here I list the 3 that I found.

(I) LOCTITE E-120HP HYSOL EPOXY ADHESIVE. This is what I ended up using. It's very chemical fuel and ethanol resistant. Apparently it's export restricted because of its aerospace uses, so should be well enough for the sorts of speeds of a Ducati! It's not the most readily available but is available in the 50ml small quantity cartridge for $12 online. You'll end up using only a fifth of it. Ideally you need to also have an applicator gun and mixing nozzle but I just hand mixed it. It's quite fluid so is very easy to pour into the joint space. After mixing sufficient quantity on a cardboard surface I used a drinking straw to suck up and then squeeze it into the joint space. Once it was a little less runny I also covered the electrical wires with it, hopefully insulating my frayed wire.

(II) PERMATEX 84334 ETHANOL RESISTANT FUEL TANK REPAIR SEALANT ADHESIVE. This is readily available at Autozone etc. However it is the consistency of hard putty and needs to be kneaded and warmed to better work with. I think it would have required care to apply in a way to ensure the soldered joints were sealed well.

(III) PERMATEX® MOTOSEAL® 1 ULTIMATE GASKET MAKER GREY. The technical data sheet says “The product retains effective properties in contact with automotive fluids, such as motor oil, gasoline, transmission fluids, alcohol and antifreeze solutions”. It might be easier to work with than the fuel tank repair putty.

11. Putting it all back together was quick. One broken steel clip needed fixing, so be careful when removing them. Also, I had ordered two of the special steel hose clamps with the new fuel filter but couldn't make them work as they do require a special tool to crimp properly, so I ended up using stainless steel hose clamps of smallest size from Home Depot. (This is where if you have issues I would recommend reading Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.) I used grease on the O-ring instead of a new one and so far it seems fine and not leaking.

The engine didn't fire up on first try which gave me that sinking feeling but worked like a charm once the fuel pump had primed sufficiently. The sound of the pump is loud and clear every time I switch on the electricity. So far it's looking good. Thanks again to the others who preceded me on this fix. If anything more develops I 'll post it here. Peace.
 

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51020032A doesn't have the small grounding wire. needed?

Or you could just replace the wiring harness p/n 51020032a it's a hidden number the ducati doesn't want you to know but available at any ducati dealer about 150 bucks which is still outrages but better that 1000
Hey sorry to bring back an old thread... but I recently am trying to fix the short in my fuel pump so I bought the Part 51020032A mentioned above...

Have any of you installed it? I have my fuel flange assembly in pieces and the new part doesn't have the small grounding wire my old wiring does.
it is a small black wire that connects to the screw that holds the fuel filter in place as well as another part (ive seen be called the fuel regulator but am unsure).

I don't want to put the whole thing together to find out my issue is still happening or worse yet... I dunno an explosion or something? :S

Please any help or reassurance would be great!

Thanks!
Dainjah
 
Did you figure this out? I'm doing the same repair right now and debating ordering a new part from CA-Cycleworks (which have had issues with leaking in the past), rebuilding my existing part where the wires are epoxied in, or getting this 51020032A part....which apparently is missing a ground wire. Your insight would help.

Thanks
 
Well I thank you all for this post as it just saved my butt.

To answer the question above....simply cut the small ground wire off of the old wiring harness and solder it onto the new plug.
If you use a very small object you can unclip the ground clip from inside the black plastic plug. Maybe take it to a professional and have them solder the old ground wire to the new female ground clip and then snap it back into the plastic housing.

I found a few non-ethanol stations close by so i'm running that stuff from now on.

Thanks again, and hopefully this post helps someone out.
 
Headed out for a Sunday ride and my SR21K just quit. After fiddling with fuses and relays she started back up so I..... got a few miles FARTHER FROM home and of course the bike quits again.

Yep no fuel pump whir but strong relay click. Time to google fuel pump issues with SR2's...

Found this thread and decided to tackle the repair immediately. Easy to get to the pump. Taking pump plastic shroud off is finicky. Old Epoxy was super easy to clean out and yep my positive fuel pump wire was separated. Re-soldered and glued with Fuel resistant Permex RTV. Back on the road after 12hrs cure of glue.

PRO TIP!!!! You can check the wiring harness by doing a continuity test from the pigtail.

Anyway again thanks for the thread and all the pix.

IMAGES are 1 & 2. wiring plug as found 3. excavation and found detached wire 4. all other wires solid (really) and reading the stud for re-solder. 5. completed soldering
 

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