Does your bike have all the firmware updates? This is common without them.

 

just took my bike in to Ducati NYC to have this issue looked into.

 

. . . interesting! no. got it in late september and besides changing the oil, i've done nothing else. will bring that up to the dealer.

 

Mine has the updates and still does this from time to time, though it hasn't for awhile now. Out of curiosity, what mileage are you at?

 

tech guy had not heard anything like this.

Do they ever say anything other than that?

 

Throckmorton .. You need to read the "Ducati taking my 2014 Monster 1200s back" thread. Believe me, you are not alone with this problem.

Still waiting to hear from anyone with a 2015 bike who has this problem. Really want to know if it is a 2014 model year problem that got fixed.

 

My 2015 had exactly the same problem.
due mainly to extreme lean condition in engine management + a host of other issues im led to believe.
Installed a rapidbike with a custom dyno tune and BOoM! never ever stalled again. 6000km later and rev matching gear down changes, everything?

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So the bike doesn't restart when you let the clutch out (like its being push started)?

 

i seem to have problems bump starting newer bikes 07- on . . . not sure why. i have not tried bump strarting my ducati yet; will try that after i take bike in for a look.

 

little over 2000 (it's a second bike, not a daily rider).

 

thanks for this. going to call around and check boards before taking the bike in for some stupid firmware update that won't do ****. what a drag . . .

 

Flash solved my Monster's teething issue. Hasn't had an issue since.

and the newer bikes are a bitch to bump start due to high compression and the slipper clutch.

 

I have had the symptom as described by the OP a couple of times since I got the bike...until today. 3 times on the way into work (4 KM) this morning the bike stalled. The first time it really, really didn't want to re-start and just started as the advance green for the opposite direction ended and allowed me to go. Whew! Then I made my turn and got to the next light and as I was gearing down again I pulled in the clutch to stop and it stalled again. This time it started right back up. I had to stop at a few more lights and stop signs and had no problems until I slowed down to turn into the parking lot at work and the bike stalled again. This time the engine light came on as well but it still started right up again. I got into the office and called the dealer and basically demanded an appointment for tomorrow so I'm taking it in to have them go over it.

It seems to me that once it warms up the revs drop too low when you pull in the clutch, basically creating the conditions for it to stall. Seems to me that even though I'm supposed to have the "latest" firmware (according to the dealer when I took it in for it's oil change 6 weeks ago) the idle mix is way too lean. Maybe I can make them put a Rapid Bike tuner in it!:smile

 

My 2015 Diavel did this and it has to do with the lightweight flywheel and balancing the air bleeder in these high performance engines

 

If you know how to sync throttle bodies, I'd try that. If not, ask your dealer to do it. Throttle body "adjustment" (sync) may be on the list of maintenance items for the 1000km service so look at that first.


Stalling when pulling in the clutch (or chopping the throttle quickly) in any gear at any speed has been a known problem for other makes, and the throttle body sync was the remedy.

 

I was told part of the issue was the clutch slave. My bike stalled twice after replacing. Has happened 4 times in 6k miles.

 

Never had a stall once...before, or after the termi install. 2014 1200.

 

Good to know. It doesn't happen all the time to me, but when it does it happens more than once on the same ride. I think I make it worse when I try to rev match on down shifts, which I tend to do more after I've just ridden the Sportster (which would have the back end passing me going into the corner if I didn't rev match!).

 

Just to report back in case anyone else was having the issue. I just had my full Termi system installed on Saturday and it fixed the issue, however during the install and map update they did say there were 2 other ECU updates involving fuel mapping and throttle, so I don't know which of these fixed the problem conclusively, but it's worth a check to see if you need those updates. I do know the Termi update fixed any doubts that this bike is truly a Monster haha, they are well worth every penny!

Just so that everyone knows the exact test scenario I used to see if it was stalling I was able to get mine to consistently stall by cruising at approximately 40MPH, down shifting aggressively to get the revs up to over 6k, then clutching in, this would cause the engine to sputter and stall. Less aggressive downshifting would cause it to sometimes stall and sometimes just sputter and restart and the lights would flicker. Repeating the exact same steps with the ECU update and full Termis has no issues, revs stay consistent once clutch is pulled in.

 

Do you know the dates of the updates? I called the dealer yesterday and they said there wasn't one?

 

everybody i know here locally with a monster 1200s has this issue including myself. dealerships here have tried everything from charcoal canister removal to injectors to tps sensors and even whole ECU interchanges. nothing will fix it, after a while bike will randomly start stalling again. we have come to the conclusion that it is the ECU map. the latest updated available map WILL NOT fix it. we've complained to ducati USA and they dont care.... they assured us that the bike has been blessed by the pope and tutto bene! lol JK
the only map that seems to fix the issue is the one that comes with the termis.

so you have two options 1. learn to live with it. or 2. spend the $1600 for the termis.

 

Well, this sucks. My dealer has gotten zero support from DNA. During one ride it stalled while the tech was wearing the diagnostic back pack. They made some sort of adjustment and reflashed it with the current map. It was ok for a ride or two then it was back to its old self. What doesn't make sense is those who have reflashed and claim the problem is no more. Not questioning the integrity of any member of this forum. If we all have the same product why does it fix some and not others?

 

Because it's not a bag of hammers. Sort of a complicated thing. Also, same symptoms do not necessarily indicate same problem.

 

Get ECU update. Had the same problem which disappeared after they updated it.

 

That was more of a rhetorical question, chief. Thanks for clearing that up though.

 

The mechanic at my dealer said the light flywheel exacerbates the problem. Like SD said, no one thing is responsible.

 

Aaaaaand...i have the stalling thing also, 2014 manufacturing date, 2015 M.Y, bike has the latest FW update, took it to the dealer, they reset the TPS but still no go (little bit better than yesterday though).

is there actually a remedy about this ? I'm not giving Ducaudi another 1500€+tax for the Termis and up-map for the "privilege" of not having my bike stalling, ****'s dangerous to say the least and a rapidbike is also out of the question.

What's the proper, official (i.e: Ducati's ) solution ? Last post in this thread is from January, do we have an update about this ?

 

Officially, the bike has no problem, at least according to Ducati North America. Mine stalls when I ride aggressively and then brake aggressively...then bwaaaa. If I'm lucky I can pull the clutch in and restart it then keep going. But then there are the times where it stalls and the only way it will restart is to put it in neutral, turn off the key, turn on the key then retry starting. Lots of fun in the middle of a busy road at the lights with cars piled up behind you!

 

Guys our bikes run super lean from the factory down low, it's stalls when you rev as it's not getting enough fuel. Get the rapidbike, the module adds fuel and it fixed there issue for me.

 

Oh, ya Rosso I forgot to mention; try not to rev match on this bike. It just exacerbates the problem. You have to let the slipper clutch do its job. I keep forgetting and I either stall this bike or the back end tries to pass me on the Harley.:wink