I doubt there's a way to manipulate digital odometers. Generally this is a good thing. You may have picked up a few "free" miles... you could have a note of it made on your registration/title if you're really concerned. Otherwise... [thumbsup]

How many miles are you getting for "free" ?

 

I went trough the same thing with a bike and the only thing you need to be "legal" is only a statement from the dealer that repaired it. The dealer has a standardized form that they use and I think are obligated to use when they alter the odometer. The paper documents the old odometer reading and the new reading after the fix was done. I had also requested a copy of the work order detailing the job exactly, as well as recording vin no. serial no. of the unit that was replaced etc etc. Long story short get as much documentation as you can. The main reason being that it will help you sell it and not have problems or get additional questions. thats it.

Migrane

 

Really not enough miles to be excited about, only 1831 miles chopped off. I have it documented on the repair order from the dealer. It is mostly for my personal satisfaction. I am a nit-picky freak about those sorts of details. It is a sickness, I know.

 

If you're electronicallly inclined, you could see what the signal was coming out of the wheel rotation sensor, and emulate that with a signal generator.

Mechanically inclined? Rig up an electric motor to spin bolt heads past the sensor.

Only issue in either case is you'll have to have the bike powered-up for several hours.

OCD with a Monster isn't all bad. But watch your checkbook. [laugh]

 

Having the bike powered up does not bother me, I would probably do it in a few chunks. I am a bit mechanically and electronically inclined but the mechanical method sounds a bit more to my liking.

A little more help then, where would the rotation sensor located? Also. what does the sensor detect to register wheel rotation?

Thanks a million for all the help.

As for the OCD, yeah it is a killer. The damn Ducati dealer kept on tempting me with some great carbon Termi's and offered to cover the shop charges for install. I just had to walk away. ... Just walk away.

 

Legally I believe you just need a note on the title's history saying that the odometer changed and what the mileage was before and after.

I wouldn't worry about it if the title is right.

 

Legally there is a place on the back of your title for the disclosure. It's called the "odometer disclosure statement". I would advise that you complete this section when/if you ever sell the bike. Migrane is correct in stating that the dealer has the proper form. If you don't disclose the odometer difference then it is considered illegal. Also the bike will be considered a "TMU" or "true milage unknown". That is very bad for the value of your bike. Make sure you keep all the documentation that the dealer gave you with the repair. One other thing you may want to consider, it is also illegal to alter the odometer reading in any way. This includes rolling the odometer forward to catch up to what the actuall milage is on the bike. If you do roll the odometer forward and it's ever found out, the bike would be considered the afore mentioned "TMU". The best way to handle the situation is to just leave it alone and keep the documentation and complete the odometer disclosure statement at the time of sale.

 

Thanks for all the advice and as much as it might annoy the bejesus out of me, my best bet is to just leave the mileage alone and have all the documentation for it. I have a sneaking suspicion that if I do try to do anything about it I will have a strong contender for the silliest thing you have ever done thread http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/index.php/topic,33820.0.html.

 

that could be really funny:

"I did a stint at chino for odometer fraud... tried to add 1800 miles to my bike, and they caught me. Little bit of advice, first day... become someone's b!tch, or kick someones a5s. I had to kill seventy three people in prison to get any respect after they found out why i was in there..."

 

spot, i also have had 'mileage rolling OCD' recently.

i got my cluster replaced at 5950 for leaking. i got an electrical engineering friend to
wire up a solenoid to a small controller he built with a potentiometer to adjust the
frequency. i have an 03, so the sensor tracks the change in magnetic field as the
bolts spin by, and the solenoid sends similar information (taped to the sensor)

we dialed the speedo up to 160 (past that it would go back to zero) and used a couple
12V power supplies to keep the electonics running off house power. we disconnected
the battery after the fuel pump (i think) did it's whiny thing and disconnected the lights
to keep amperage low.

in the end it took about 35 hours and everyone thinks i'm nuts...

 

Great! I'm getting new clocks on Friday, I never thought they would store the mileage in the gauges I thought it would be in the ECU. This will drive me mad!

 

"I did a stint at chino for odometer fraud... tried to add 1800 miles to my bike, and they caught me. Little bit of advice, first day... become someone's b!tch, or kick someones a5s. I had to kill seventy three people in prison to get any respect after they found out why i was in there..."

That is some funny shtuff and probably all to true.

Well, jspace, it is good to know that I can be done. Not sure what I want to do about it yet. And it is good to know that I am not the only OCD freak out there.

A word of advice FZMax, if I had known about the mileage before I had it done, I wouldn't have had it done. The speedo needle was not that bad and the low mileage is a hell of a lot more annoying. Oh well, live and learn.

 

My problem is the tach and it is pretty much useless. This will drive me batty but I will try to get over it.

 

if you guys think about doing it electrically let me know and i can provide more detailed info about the setup.

 

if you guys think about doing it electrically let me know and i can provide more detailed info about the setup.

Please do! I got my new gauges today and I don't think I will sleep tonight while missing my 3140 miles.

 

As mentioned by others, don't do it.

1. It is illegal.
2. If you do catch it up and somebody finds out it was replaced after 3k miles, you will have added 3k more (which will be assumed to be real miles) to your bike (try convincing them or the state otherwise [laugh]).

If I was buying a bike that I saw/found out had the gages replaced and somebody told me, "Don't worry the milage is accurate. I cuaght it up electronically...." I would walk away from the deal.

.02

 

Please do! I got my new gauges today and I don't think I will sleep tonight while missing my 3140 miles.

+1 on that, not sure if I am going to do it or not but I would at least like to know how.

1. It is illegal.
2. If you do catch it up and somebody finds out it was replaced after 3k miles, you will have added 3k more (which will be assumed to be real miles) to your bike (try convincing them or the state otherwise [laugh]).

If I was buying a bike that I saw/found out had the gages replaced and somebody told me, "Don't worry the milage is accurate. I cuaght it up electronically...." I would walk away from the deal.

.02

1. Ain't the first illegal thing I have done and probably won't be the last either. >
2. If I do decide to sell my Monster I have far bigger problems to worry about than the odometer.

Thanks for your .02, that is why I am asking. I want any and all opinions.

 

It is an awfully minor thing to be breaking the law over though. Like he said, I'd walk on a sale if the odometer wasn't the stock and the milage was claimed accurate (unless installed before any miles were on the bike)

 

I understand where you are coming from but I think I would walk away from any bike that did not have the actual mileage represented on the odometer, no piece of paper is going to convince me that it is all good. I doubt I am alone on that. Unfortunately no matter what I do now, my bike will always have something screwy with the mileage. I might as well have it the way I want it and worry about selling it if and when the time comes. Then again I've been known to pull the tags off of mattresses now and again.

 

See I'm more trusting of the owner who does the proper thing (reports it on the title) then the one that decides that he will do the aesthetic thing that is illegal.

But I also am very untrusting of most used sporty motorcycles where i don't know the owner well.

 

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  Then again I've been known to pull the tags off of mattresses now and again.

Now you're gonna get locked up for sure. [laugh]

 

As far as the legality of rolling the numbers forward I believe the federal law makes it illegal to tamper with the odometer to either make it record slowly all the time or to read something other than actual mileage. Rolling the numbers forward either electronically or in the case of older units, spinning the cable for hours is neither tampering as you are not altering the workings of the odometer nor is it fraud as you are making it show the actual mileage, not more or less.

All things considered, I’m willing to take my chances. Jspace, help me out!

 

As far as the legality of rolling the numbers forward I believe the federal law makes it illegal to tamper with the odometer to either make it record slowly all the time or to read something other than actual mileage.  Rolling the numbers forward either electronically or in the case of older units, spinning the cable for hours is neither tampering as you are not altering the workings of the odometer nor is it fraud as you are making it show the actual mileage, not more or less.

All things considered, I’m willing to take my chances.  Jspace, help me out! 

Just because you mentioned it that way, I got curious and looked it up:

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casec...secode/uscodes/49/subtitles/vi/parts/c/chapters/327/sections/section_32704.html

(a) Adjusting Mileage. - A person may service, repair, or replace
an odometer of a motor vehicle if the mileage registered by the
odometer remains the same as before the service, repair, or
replacement. If the mileage cannot remain the same -
(1) the person shall adjust the odometer to read zero; and
(2) the owner of the vehicle or agent of the owner shall attach
a written notice to the left door frame of the vehicle specifying
the mileage before the service, repair, or replacement and the
date of the service, repair, or replacement.

So looks like it's illegal to roll it foward too. But as should be obvious, each person is free to do with their vehicle as they wish.

 

Just because you mentioned it that way, I got curious and looked it up:

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casec...secode/uscodes/49/subtitles/vi/parts/c/chapters/327/sections/section_32704.html
So looks like it's illegal to roll it foward too.  But as should be obvious, each person is free to do with their vehicle as they wish.

Actually the quote says if it cannot remain the same, it can remain the same by moving it forward.

 

fair enough.