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My first "twisties" run - Mercer Island, Washington

3.2K views 14 replies 7 participants last post by  ducman491  
#1 · (Edited)
So, I don't know if anyone ever reads the introductions forum. Basically, it says I'm kind of a newbie, with ~1,500 miles under my belt. Yes, I realize I'm probably an idiot for driving a m796, but in all honesty, it feels a lot more comfortable and safer than driving my V-Star 650 :)

Anyway, I thought I'd go out and practice my turns yesterday, and so I searched the internet for the phrase "twisties in Seattle, WA" on Google. I found the following route:

http://www.vimtips.org/media/map.html

I put on all my gear, drove out there with the idea that I'll just follow the speed limit and see if I can manage the turns (for reference, the speed limit is generally 30mph on the West side of the island, and 25mph on the East side with all the switchbacks).

I found that I could handle *all* the turns on the West side of the island at around 30 to 35 mph. I was having fun! Lake Washington was off in the distance, but I couldn't really look at it much because I was trying to watch all the driveways that intersected the road I was on. In fact, although there was very little automobile traffic on the road, there were lots of things to watch out for. Lots of bicyclers, open driveways, etc.

Things got a little less fun on the East side of the Island, the side with the switchbacks. The first switchback I went into a little too fast for my comfort, and I let go of the throttle. It wasn't anywhere near a graceful turn, I messed up my line, but I didn't leave my lane, and I didn't crash or anything.

The next switchback I slowed way way down. To about 20 to 25 mph, my bike absolutely hates this speed. Too slow for second gear, but in first gear needs a lot of care on the throttle and clutch to keep it from lurching... the turn was pretty easy. I was able to keep on the throttle a little bit and keep my line.

The next few switchbacks I learned a few things, which could probably be the wrong things, but that's why I'm posting this - for feedback. I always knew you were supposed to lean into a turn, but I found that if I leaned myself even more, a little more than the bike was leaning, the turn would go a lot smoother.

The other thing I learned was to bend my elbow on the arm that's on the inside of the curve. Bend it so that my face is much closer to the tank, but so that I can still see everything. It may have been placebo effect, but it really did seem to help.

When I got to point 'B' on the map, I turned a U and did it all over again going the other way. The switchbacks were a little better, but all too often I found myself slowing to 20 to 25mph, and my bike hating it. Back on the West side of the island, I was cruising along at pace again.

I then drove the 15 miles back to my house. By the time I got there, my neck hurt, my ass hurt, but all in all I had a lot of fun.

What could I have done to make those switchbacks go a lot more smoothly?
 
#2 ·
Hey, congrats on the M796 - just picked up a Monster in Seattle as well.. never knew about that route; I'm relatively green myself (5-6k total miles) so probably can't offer you too much advice but maybe you should consider picking up a throttle tamer or switching to a 14T front sprocket to smoothen out the lower gears?

The route looks nice but I'm not sure I could enjoy myself when there are so many intersecting driveways... paranoid about cars pulling out of their driveways without looking carefully since it's such a "comfort zone" for the driver.
 
#3 ·
Just for a note: Your bike can handle things more than you can. So keep the pace maybe a bit faster than you would normally go not too much though untill you get used to them and lean more into them on you line. use your eyes and never take your eyes off the goal. you'd be surprised how much you and your bike can do if you just set you eyes and your line dig deep and lean into the SOB.
 
#4 ·
Otherwise good job with a bit more time and experience what your doing will become second nature and then youll be able to drag a knee into every turn at 40 to 50 MPH wth practice. But leaning forward and into the turn is the why to go. good job!!!!
 
#11 ·
Vashon

Might I suggest a day out on Vashon?

There's only one stop light on the island and daytime hours are pretty quiet out there. Especially on the weekdays.

Please respect the locals though.

There are also intermediate and advanced classes available locally to improve your skill set. Have fun.
 
#12 ·
My 2 cents for you would be a track day at the track nearest you. My nearest track is 157 miles away so I am fully aware that it is not always convenient but trust me, it is worth it. I have been riding over 40 years and track days are still great fun, a chance to meet new people and most importantly, you can explore your riding limits in a controlled situation. No worries about cars, gravel, people yappin' on their phones and so on. By exploring your limits on a track where you repeat the same set of braking points, apex points, throttle roll on, etc. your learning curve accelerates quite rapidly. Then, when you do go out on your favorite set of twisties, notch it down a bit and you probably will amaze yourself.
 
#14 ·
Hey its all good missing the track days this year. Another thing to do is take the MSF sport riders course. It was made to teach you to control low and high speed cornering. I take it every year just for the refresher and i learn something new each time. But every day you go out it should be a learning experience anyway.

But one of these weekends, just get lost. Take them as if you were cruising around 20 to 50 miles around your house, you'd be surprised how many awsome roads and cool paths youll find. I live right near DC(**** tonnes of traffic) but a mile or two south of me is awsome canyon type roads with little to no traffic and the roads are prestine.