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Will be nice to see a dyno chart for a full termi exhaust.
I would expect very little or no noticeable difference. The full headers may be slightly smoother lacking the O2 sensors and the exhaust valve but they're not any larger than the "R's". The reasons for swapping are for the farkle ( a pound less weight) and bling (shinny and blue).
For major performance enhancements, I'd first look at fine tuning the AFR, gearing change and lighter wheels followed by larger throttle bodies, higher lift cams, lighter connecting rods, etc.
 

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Just had a "for charity" dyno run on my Monster 1200R. Half the proceeds went to the Diabetes Foundation. Great Idea.
However:
SC-Project Carbon with Rexxer flash. Open loop only, O2 disabled.
140.11 HP Not happy.
 

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Just had a "for charity" dyno run on my Monster 1200R. Half the proceeds went to the Diabetes Foundation. Great Idea.
However:
SC-Project Carbon with Rexxer flash. Open loop only, O2 disabled.
140.11 HP Not happy.
The 1200 R should produce 152 HP at the crank (corrected value for Europe), means about 140 - 142 HP at the rear wheel. This with the stock equipment. How do you use your SC-Project? DB Eater on board? Air filter stock? I'm really no fan of the Rexxer mappings. First of all there is no sense to kill the closed loop area. You can manipulate it (14.2 AFR instead of 14.67) without loosing the self-regulation effect in this area and nevertheless getting a smoother engine in the lower rpm range. Unfortunately the synerject ecu of the Monster 1200 isn't hacked till now so you have to use a piggyback solution or send in your ECU if you want to flash it (by Rexxer after a hardware manipulation). RapidBike keeps the closed loop area alive and allows the selective tuning of the parameters for each cylinder. Before any misunderstandings arise: I prefer flashing the ECU but not sending it to a dealer. I want to flash a new mapping and playback the original configuration myself.
 

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Just had a "for charity" dyno run on my Monster 1200R. Half the proceeds went to the Diabetes Foundation. Great Idea.
However:
SC-Project Carbon with Rexxer flash. Open loop only, O2 disabled.
140.11 HP Not happy.
Are you going to try a different tuner? I am thinking about going Shift Tech exhaust with Rapid Bike Evo, I like RB's stuff.
 

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Discussion Starter #32 (Edited)
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No DB baffle, Stock air filter.

FYI about the drop in HP from the crank to the rear wheel:
I had my stock 2018 Multistrada 1260 Pikes Peak on the same dyno yesterday as well. It's rated at 158hp by Ducati.
It pulled a 141.04 HP at the wheel representing an 11% drop.
This was inline with my expectations given other dyno run results on the same bike.

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As previously mentioned, I'm not too pleased with 140.11 at the wheel given the ecu flash and the no cat-exhaust on the Monster.
145+hp was expected. Perhaps I was too optimistic.
I'm familiar with the Rapidbike having had one in my previous Panigale. In fact, I still have it and earmarked for the Multistrada when the time comes.
I'm not blaming the exhaust. I'll check my air filter if it needs replacing but I'll try to get some feedback from Rexxer and take it from there.

Edit: ECU flashes are great as long as you can tune at home and revert if need be. Sending it out is a pain.
If I had to do this ECU mod again, I would use a Rapidbike unit for several reasons namely: auto-adaptation, customizable and Dyno tune-able and bike portable should you buy another harness.
 

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Interesting, well I will be watching to see what happens in the future. If I get my set up done and on a dyno Ill post it.

edit: just realized it was you on Panigale forum that persuaded me into this bike, HUGE thanks BTW!
 

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Rexxer got back to me. They usually can fetch north of 145hp but altitude, atmospheric changes and other subtle variances can make a difference. A competition air filter would add a few HP's although not recommended for the street. In addition to a clean air filter which mine may not be, they suggested to disconnect and plug the vacuum line from the charcoal canister to the intake if it's still on the bike. Disable the TC for the dyno run which I had. That's about it in a nutshell. They did remark that the dyno curve looked good which they felt was more important than the small peak power difference.
 

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Rexxer got back to me. They usually can fetch north of 145hp but altitude, atmospheric changes and other subtle variances can make a difference. A competition air filter would add a few HP's although not recommended for the street. In addition to a clean air filter which mine may not be, they suggested to disconnect and plug the vacuum line from the charcoal canister to the intake if it's still on the bike. Disable the TC for the dyno run which I had. That's about it in a nutshell. They did remark that the dyno curve looked good which they felt was more important than the small peak power difference.
I just saw your edit and if I were you...I would just get the RB and call it a day. I agree 100%, there is a reason people like the RB units. That is the way that I am going, just waiting to see what black friday deals are to come then I am going to buy my Shift Tech and RB. The other plus for RB is that you can buy the Up/Down quickshifter add on.
 

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Hopefully going to the Dyno sometime December/January. But I have a 2015 1200 S, I’ve installed a MWR intake, Shift-Tech GP style exhaust, Rapid Bike Evo module and the Quick Shifter. Have not had a shop custom tune it yet. I’m at just about sea lvl and will post my charts once I get it done. Noticeable change in the bike, much snappier and even power curve. No crazy lurching. Dropping some pictures of the setup, thought I had a picture of the quick shifter but dont. I have the QS module attached just behind the rapid bike module.
 

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As mentioned in my previous post #32, I would use the RB if I had to got through the flash process again. It's not the flash per se that was an issue for me. It was having to ship it out and wait for it to return. The RB is also home tune-able which is a big plus and last but not least, you can"t lose your flash by an inattentive Ducati mechanic if he performs an ecu upgrade by mistake. Also as mentioned, I have an RB unit in the garage right now which I pulled from my Panigale. However, it's earmarked for the Multistrada. Enjoy your Monster and show us your Dyno charts with a description of the performance mods on your bike..
 

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I currently own a Ducati diavel s cause I mostly use my bike for everything and riding a supersport would split my spine in two after few months. It's been 4 years since I bought the bike and now recently rode my friends monster 1200s. I loved how the ride felt and it was pretty comfortable too. Plus I think I'm in love with the way it looks especially in grey. Pictures online don't do it justice. Was wondering what are your thoughts on it and if it's worth replacing my diavel.
 

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Discussion Starter #39 (Edited)
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This is a dyno chart thread. Have you put your Diavel on a dyno?
However, to answer your question:
I currently ride both a Monster and a Multistrada which replaced a Panigale 959. I have ridden the Diavel and all current Ducati more than a couple of times each. They are all different.
Similar to a Diavel, the Monster is really fun at sub-80mph but for different reasons. Also, at that speed or above for longer time period the Multistrada is a better choice. The Panigale is awful around town but excels at hyper-speed and on the track.

This may seem counter-intuitive but a Panigale is not hard on your back at all. It's hard on your wrists (at slow speed), neck and legs after awhile. Cruisers on the other hand transmit every bump right up your spine.
Notwithstanding, I really enjoyed the Diavel for what it is although that's not my type of bike.
The Monster is very lightweight compared to the Diavel where you can really throw it around in corners.
However, bikes are not a rational purchase. It all boils down to which bike speaks to you.
 

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18,000+ views and 38 posts but only 3 dyno contributions so far.
Doesn't say much for walking the talk. We could use a larger sample of runs with bikes having various components.
Let's go guys. Put it on, post it and tell us what mods you have.
 
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