your going to get flamed for this question. for the record, i think its hot too. Im considering swapping to a 190 on the my m1100.I got a quick look at a 696 with what appeared to be about a 200 rear tire. I love the look of that and need to know what I have to do to put the widest rear tire I can on my 09 696 without spending an arm and/or leg
I fully agree. It's the current fashion.Most bikes have wheels/tires that are too wide in my opinion. Almost comical.
OK. Do what you like. I personally am very biased toward the riding side, and have little or no interest in bling. If people like to bling out their bikes, I have no problem with that. But people should be aware of the facts, if they are thinking about a change that they think is just cosmetic but in fact will affect their actual vehicle dynamics. This question comes up pretty often, and I just wanted to provide some actual information so someone doesn't mess up his bike through ignorance of engineering reality.Well I agree on the Hayabusas especially stretched (OOPH). But that's a pretty extreme example, No?? lol. I cannot compare wheels on a Monster with different size tires, as I've only ridden Monsters with stock wheels tires. I can however tell you that changing out a stock wheel on an SSSA Hawk with a VFR wheel (Going from 150 stock to 180) didn't feel any worse to me. Actually felt pretty damn good. I'd actually argue that you may gain some benefits if you actually laid down some coin on a well engineered set of lightweight aftermarket wheels, regardless of the tire being slightly bigger. But that's neither here nor there. You are not ruining the bike by adding a larger wheel and tire, just modifying it to your own taste. As you can tell I prefer the larger size... lol. And I'd be a hypocrite for saying I did it for any other reason than it looks badass. But if you do it the right way any negative effect on handling would be negligible. Especially between a 160 and a 180. And negative is relative, it may not turn in as quickly on a twisty road, but you may give that up for more highway stability. And I'll take the debate even further, if you are pushing it on the street to the limit where it did become a detriment, than you are speeding!
<shrug> It's fine for a show bike; they are for shows. It's fine for a bike-night bike, or a fashion accessory bike, if that's what a person wants. Whatever floats your boat. It's just that the current fashion has managed to convince a lot of people that the wider the tire the better, and from a handling and an engineering standpoint, that's factually wrong. So I'm trying to counter the misconception, because one of the things I am about is rational truth and logic.haha, you ever notice that one thing about show bikes?
My riding is about 70% commuting/errands/basic transpo, about 25% touring, and about 5% sporting. I do not consider myself to be a hard rider. But I don't have to be "shaving milliseconds" to be able to tell and appreciate how well a bike is handling. And I can easily tell the difference in handling between otherwise similar Monsters, one with a 160 and one with a 180.Hey, well I hope you don't think I'm defensive... hahaha. I'm just having a little friendly debate. I have to admit though a couple of you guys seem a little bit condescending about it, which is why I chimed in my 2 (10?) pennies. I ride about 4-5000 miles per year, from April through November... mostly commuting to work. I do not race. I've been riding since I was a kid. I consider myself an experienced intermediate rider.
So my point was, for an average rider like me, who also likes to enjoy the beauty of what I'm riding, it's totally NOT a detriment to change your rear wheel out to a bigger size, if you do it the right way, ESPECIALLY for street riding. It is in no way dangerous to run a 180 tire as opposed to a 160 on the street as long as the wheel fits your bike and is the correct size for the tire you are running. And one of the reasons I love Ducatis, is because I can go out into my garage and stare at a Monster with a smile on my face, and a little subtle but well placed bling makes it that much more interesting, a little bit more "my own". I like to turn around after I lift my leg over and off of my bike in the parking lot of my office in the morning and admire my bike with a smile for a minute or two. Makes my day a little happier.
Again, if you are trying to shave every millisecond possible off of your lap times, then I would absolutely agree, stick with the stock size.