I have a pair of perforated Vanson gloves. I forget the model number. This pair does not have any armour. There is some extra leather on the palms. The quality of the glove is suberb. I also own two vanson jackets and I have not had a problem with the quality of their products. As for the fit, these gloves are a little big through the palm. I have long fingers so I have to size up or the gloves will be too short.