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sqweak said:
i'm smoking outside right now to spare poor lil mags, so think of poor poor me. ;D
No one feels sorry for you. ;D

darylbowden said:
Wellbutrin was almost as bad. It just made me want to beat the **** out of everyone I met, kinda the opposite of what it what supposed to do.
Oh boy...can anyone imagine my grumpy husband on this? ;) :-*

Your birthday is in 10 days hon...hint hint. ;D
 

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lilysmama said:
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P.S. And, just my 2 cents, but aren't most of those side effects from the Chantix things you're probably going to experience when you're detoxing from nicotene anyway?
The lightweight ones, yeah.
Anxiety, Irritability, Restlessness, Agitation. Those are pretty typical.

These:
Hallucination, Psychotic disorder, Suicidal ideation.
I don't need 'em.

As attractive as the thoughts of Wellbutrin/Chantrix fueled wild hallucinatory dreams or a psychotic/sociopathic rampage may be ::) , I'll stick to the cold-turkey and gum for now.

Patches don't seem to be all that helpful from folks' FHE.

Interesting 'mind trick' stuff from Spidey and Spikey, that's helpful stuff.

evoasis, just the thought of chewing t'backy makes me want to hurl.
I tried it *once*, just plain nasty to me.
 

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IMO... if you are truly doing this for you.... it's easy. If you are doing it for any other reason... it'll be, not so easy.
 

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Good job and hang in there.

Its been 6 years since I've quit and I still occasionally crave a smoke :-\
I was a hardcore pack to 2 packs a day smoker. I quit cold turkey because It didn't make sense to me to use the patch or gum. I was seriously evil for about 2 weeks, I would have been more than happy to rip random people's heads off and beat them with it just for kicks. Thank god my husband was out of town, I don't think he would have survived it [laugh]

It is one of the hardest things I've ever done but I'm so glad I did. It really will get easier as you go on.
 

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Speeddog said:
evoasis, just the thought of chewing t'backy makes me want to hurl.
I tried it *once*, just plain nasty to me.
That's actually dip, not chew. However, it IS ****ing disgusting - but when I was in High School, we used to use it cause we could do it during class...
 

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Speeddog said:
The lightweight ones, yeah.
Anxiety, Irritability, Restlessness, Agitation. Those are pretty typical.

These:
Hallucination, Psychotic disorder, Suicidal ideation.
I don't need 'em.
Oops. Guess I should have written what I was thinking and qualified my statement with the side effects that were listed as being frequent and/or infrequent. ;)
 

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For all you weed suckers....

What might very well help you kick that nasty, ugly, stinking, dirty, costly habit is....

Go to the intensive care unit of any Hospital treating folks with Emphysema...on their last breath, desperately gasping for an ounce of air while their lungs finally give way to this relentless disease.

Yes, I was at my Brother's bedside, him grasping my hand, on a ventilator, his frail, skeleton of a body shaking from all of the drug treatment from IV's, just to allow him to hang on for a few more days...he could not project a word to me, just moved his lips as he was drowning in the airless world he had fallen into. I held his shaking hand while he desperately tried to say his final words to me.
To this day, I do not know what words he was attempting to deliver me, as he shriveled up and faded away.

Oh yeah...Chesterfield, Lucky Strike, Marlboro....a real man's smoke.

To hell with all of that.....what a sinful waste of a beautiful person, my Brother, giving way to that ever so masculine lifestyle.

I truly miss David....his day came way too early.

Please stop as soon as you can.....and hopefully it will make a difference...
for you and your loved ones.



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HI! ;D

Used to smoke 1pack red Marlboro's a day for 15 years.

I smoked because i actually liked the taste of it rather than for social reasons.

Decided one day i didn't like to smoke anymore. Used the patches. Started with the highest dose, then jumped to the lightest skipping the middle one. 2 monthes later i was FREE.

Not 1 craving.

...this was 4.5 years ago.

Depending on the person, the physical addiction can vary a lot. But in all of us there is a physical and a "behavior","social" component to why we smoke.

The "behavior", or psychological component, is usually much greater than the "physical" chemical addiction. (no matter what the drug producers want you to believe)

Typically, people like you (smokers or addicts), that DONT want to quit, find millions of different excuses to why they "cant make it". There is always a reason to blame it on something else (of course) but never themself (smokers or addicts).

Coming up with "silly" excuses such as, "nightmares", "irritability" and all the more or less common side effects of the patches or pills, is just an other way of giving the fault to something/someone else...

Stop looking for reasons why each method DOESNT work with YOU and concentrate in deciding the you WANT to quit...

Stop thinking that YOU are someone special for wich nothing works. Cause you are NOT!!!

You are just like millions of other people that used to smoke but made it through the process and now are FREE.

Don't tell us ridiculous reasons why you think its not worth it to "risk" being nervous and having bad dreams for a month or two as opposed to DIE OF CANCER. ::)

Because you ARE going to DIE from a smoke related illness...

....dont even think you are one of the 0.0009% of smokers that dies from a non related illness.

Put it this way: its is NOT about you. It is mostly about the people that will have to be around you and suffer for you/with you waiting for you to die. And only because you were selfish enough to not consider the pain that your "hobby" would put your loved ones in... :-[

think folks!


ps: good luck with quitting, Nick! [thumbsup]
 

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i personaly dont like the peorple that are way too overzealous about getting others to quit, you can spout off all the stats you want about quitting or dieing from cancer but its really up to the individual to do what they want.

so don't go overboard with the whole fire and brimstone why you should quit or how hard it is.. people will do what they want.

if you want to quit good for you, there are plenty of products out there and ways to quit, millions of people have used various methods to stop smoking. if you want to smoke you are allowed its your body.

afterall we ride motorcycles. and how many times do poeple say that these things are deathtraps but we still use them? and we tell them what we think of them.

a friend that worked in insurance told me years ago that accounding to inhouse stats basically insured motorcycle riders have a 100% probabilyt of getting into an accident over a lifetime. you read that right its not 98% its a 100% probabitilyt that the person will have an accident. so don't become one of "those overzealous" safety people telling others what is good for them with all the fire and brimstone stuff.

good luck all.
 
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