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I am looking into getting a set of textile pants to replace the normal jeans I wear when riding. I am curious what brand/models you all have bought and which you'd recommend. I'm looking for something that has armor already in it and looks somewhat cool & casual. Ideas? Thanks for the help.
 

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I am looking at Spidi pants, 100% waterproof with detachable lining.
CE protection in knees and hips.

Only problem is size. I tried both L and XL.
L is ok , a bit tight.
XL is loose, comfy, maybe with the lining deattaced too loose.
These pants have extra long legs also, which I like.

Also Clover has some good pants.

BUT; I might end up with leathers, Arlen Ness has coretex leathers ...

I am not sure what I do, I would like to have one pants for all and that is impossible, so now I look for waterproof comfortable pants for touring.

Those spidis might be too hot otherwise, unless use the L size without lining during the summer.

Sure this did not help any but I could try to help myself to decide, but did not succeed in that either ....

I do not want to ride in a one mile tunnel on a sunshine entrance and pouring rain exit .... catch my drift ?
 

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Skier makes a good point about textile pants when it's warm.

I have Alpinestars cordura pants with removable liner. I wear them when it's cold (they're great for that) and on my commute all year. When it's hot, I wear shorts under and change to long pants when I get to work. Still, they can be really uncomfortable in the heat and I wouldn't want to wear them on an all day fun ride. Unless you get into the new mesh pants, the same can probably be said for all textile pants.

For sport riding I wear full perfed two piece leathers. The cordura make a great second pair.

Also, I have not been happy with Alpinestars quality. Two of my three zipper tabs broke off withing the first six months. Also the left hip armor pocket is coming apart. Upon inspection, I discovered that the the material of the pocket had been cut too close to the seam. The shop I bought from dropped Alpinestars due to continual quality problems.

I did road test them at low speed and they performed well. Saved my knee and hip and show almost no sign of the fall.
 

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... i had a textile jacket back when i was riding a gixxer and ended up sticking with my leathers for the same reason... way too hot during the summer/spring/fall seasons - nice during winter.
 

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I thought textile was cooler? Haven't tried mine yet, it's been 90-100 degrees here in Pa., but this weekend we are going on a long ride and am gonna try them out. Just gotta figure out what to were under there, probably gonna be a good pair of cycle shorts.
 

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Yeah, that's the conventional wisdom, that textile is cooler. There's a problem with that: textile can be cooler because of the venting. My jacket has poor venting. My pants have NONE. I have never seen textile pants with zip vents like the jackets have.

So, contradicting conventional wisdom, my leathers are cooler... because they're fully perf'ed. I freeze my @ss off if it's below 65!

As for what to wear under, sorry you got no useful input on the other thread after the thong issue was raised ;D

I have a range of REI polyprolylene undershirts and pants. Long sleeve and short sleeve shirts (a tank too, but I've never used it riding), long underwear and undershorts like thin bike shorts without the chamois. Mine are all pretty light weight. I select based on weather. If it's cooler, I have poly ski liner pants and a poly sweatshirt. Polypropylene is the best! wicks sweat very effectively keeping you cool when it's hot and warm when it's cold.

Some keys to comfort are close fitting undergarments so they don't bunch and cause pressure points, well designed seams (again to eliminate pressure points) and wicking stretch fabric.

REI is a good place to look. There are better brands, like Marmot, but you'll pay much more and REI is good enough.

Sunday it was humid and mid 90's. I wore the perf'ed leathers with a poly tee and the snug poly shorts. Very comfortable. I didn't smell great after 7 1/2 hours, but after a couple of beers I didn't care! (I did shower before retiring with my wife)
 

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... I usually wear cycling shorts (sans padding)... usually cotton - sometimes lycra tends to make you slide around.

as far as shirts go, i wear either a cotton T-shirt or a poly T-shirt under the jacket. I wear the same outfit under my leathers no matter what the temp is outside (except if it's like 90+ degrees).

during the winter, I add a neck-warmer to the ensemble. still i use the same summer gloves that i wear all year long. same with the boots. no need for ski-socks. just wear regular cool-max socks all year long.
 

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Summer gloves in the winter!!!??? Oh yeah, I forgot ....it's that californ-i-a winter!!!!!
 

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Hey Daffe, want to borrow my heated gloves and vest for those really wicked winters out there , when it gets to 50 degrres!!!!
 
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My Joe Rocket textile pants have venting on each side. If you want, you can basically unzip a vent that goes from your hip all the way down to the ankle! They're great in the winter, and cool in the summer. Plus, they look good and zip to most jackets (although I also have two Joe Rocket jackets). They have armor and seem like they'd offer good protection in a crash. Also good quality and price. Can't beat that!
 

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Hey Daffe, want to borrow my heated gloves and vest for those really wicked winters out there , when it gets to 50 degrres!!!!
that's hard to resist! darn - but i think i'd be feeling like it was 100+ degrees with those on! (at least during the day time). hmm... except for the fact that a few of us SFBMHA folks (no names please) have worn electric vests!!! and some heated grips.

whoo-da thought that having an electric vest hookup still on the 9** was still the "in" thing?
 

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We went on a 350 mile ride today,visited North American Warhorse, wore my new Duratrack, textile armored pants. They were very comfortable, I really liked them. The temps up north were only in the 70's, but when we were headed home , it got to the 80's. They were a little hot then , but not bad.
But , I was wondering , they did get sweaty, How do you guys clean them, and how often. The tag says machine wash??? I assume you remove the armor first. It is the soft armor, does it get sweaty and stinky too??

Just curious, how do you clean your sweaty , stinky, leathers??
 

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if you want to clean the wonderful body odor from your leathers, take it to a dry-cleaner shop and ask if they can do it. i've personally not tried that before.

as far as armor goes, be sure to REMOVE the pieces first! then, you can use warm water and soap (antibacterial) to clean your armor.
 
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Draggin' Jeans - Re: Textile Pants

I just ordered a pair of kevlar lined cargo pants from Draggin' Jeans. Will let you know about fit/construction happyness when they arrive, but mention them because I couldn't go back to 'just jeans', and found these a cool sounding alternative. Plenty of abrasion resistance and -ooh- light padding too.

There's a page on their site showing 'durability tests' vs other materials. Seemed good enough for me; just can't wear solid leathers anymore in this heat! =P

Right now these guys are including some kind of soft knee armor with pants purchases. Not sure how long deal will last but thought the info might be useful. And it's just damn cool. "Wanna see my Kevlar lined pants?"

http://www.dragginjeans.com.au/products/index.htm

Cheers,
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I had a pair of Joe Rocket Ballistic pants, what a POS! they litterally fell apart at the seams by them selves in under 2 months, so much for crash protection. I would not reccommend these to anyone. Good thing they were warrantied. They offered to give my another pair, but I naturally declined. They gave me some equivilent valued gloves which I sold. I now wear dainese P103 pants that zip into my imatra jacket. Just my thoughts.
 

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I just recently purchased some Belstaff gear and I'm extremely pleased. I have the Mercury jacket and Pioneer pants. Both are waterproof and have removable zip-out liners.

So far I've ridden in temps up to 90 degrees in them. Yeah they are quite warm when sitting in traffic, but once moving they do flow air well enough to keep me at a decent temperature. Haven't had them out in the rain yet. I think that while these have Knox CE armor in them, I don't know how good they'll be in a slide.
 

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I also gave up on textile pants and wear "motorcycle jeans" - jeans reinforced with kevlar at the butt, thighs, and knees. I'll have to look which brand mine are. I have one pair I love and one "cheapo" pair that I don't like so much, so with these quality and fit matters, and you might have to pay extra for it, but the comfort is well worth it. No sweaty sticky plastic pants, and I just don't want to wear leather pants on my monster. Seems like sin 0:)
 
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