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I'm curious which part of the Code book came into play with your accident. I agree it is definitely worth a read.

Glad to hear the gear did its part! [thumbsup] Sorry it didn't have a better outcome in terms of how you landed.
 

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I'm curious which part of the Code book came into play with your accident. I agree it is definitely worth a read.

Glad to hear the gear did its part!  [thumbsup] Sorry it didn't have a better outcome in terms of how you landed.
No I didn't mean the Code book had anything to do with my accident.  The Code principles did have a big part in laying the foundation for the development of my sport riding skills though, and I think they are invaluable building blocks that everyone should read and understand.  My accident was truly a freak situation.  The 'direct' cause was an absolute crap gearbox on the first generation Honda F4 (99), which they redesigned the following year.  It was a false neutral nightmare and I got one entering a 25 mph lefthander (two lane, trees on right, no shoulder, no margin for error) at about 50mph at full lean, downshifted rolled on the throttle and...nothing.  Scary feeling.  I had one shot to get it back in gear and 'maybe' make the turn.  Couldn't do it, so I did a stoppie, flip, crash.

What I do realize is the 'indirect' cause of my accident was (don't take this the wrong way) that after lots of track days and practice my skill level had advanced to a point where I was too comfortable doing speeds on the street that don't belong on the street in an environment where there are so many uncontrolled variables and lack of margin for error.  The really sad part about my situation (there were many sad parts) was that I realized this about 2 months prior to the accident and discussed it with my wife after I had a ride where I was comfortable dragging my knees through turns while at the same time enjoying the view from the ridges.  I knew it was only a matter of time.  Literally the day before my accident I went out and bought a trailer and decided to only do track days from then on.  My bike was already set up for the track.  Buddy calls, says one more ride, I say sure as long as we don't do the group ride, as it's too slow...

You live and you learn.  Can't change the past.  I do regret that I didn't listen to my own preaching about keeping what belongs on the track on the track.  And that good safety gear is a must.  I know it's hard for many people to afford it, particularly when the siren song of pipes and other bling is out there, but the first dollars anyone spends, even before the bike, should be for quality, good fitting safety gear.  Even if you want to cry when they're cutting off your $2,000 set of custom fit leathers.  As we all know, hospital bills cost much, much more than that.

Final thought. As horrible as my accident and recovery were, there were some really positive things to come out of it that I wouldn't change for the world. Sitting in a chair for months on end gives you time to reflect on your life and get a new perspective that you can't always get until you are forced to step back from your obsession(s).
 

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This month i bought a textile jacket and pants with CE armor. This season i started to feel really vulnerable wearing jeans. So i went shopping and realized that my fancy leather jacket alone cost the same as the textile jacket and pants combo. For someone on a budget i think you can buy more gear/protection in textiles than high-priced leather (for street riding anyways).
 

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I have and use a Icon Tarmac Jacket. I have not read any thing on the kind of performance I should expect out of it. I use it on very hot days here in New Mexico.
 

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I ALWAYS wear my gear and I mean always - yet for some stupid reason yesterday I decided that it wasn't necessary as I was only going a short distance to a friends house so I didn't wear my jacket. (literally my first time without my full gear) Nothing happened except I was totally uncomfortable on the bike. Felt exposed and vulnerable to the elements. It's like wearing your seat belt in the car - it's what you get use too. I got home early and my wife started to tease me about not wearing the jacket. Told her I cut the ride short because I wasn't comfortable without the jacket and that I won't do that again. I just read through this entire thread which reinforced what I already know - ATGATT. This is one lesson I don't want to be a painful one - enough DMLers have suffered - let everyone pay heed to their tragic experiences and learned from that.

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Speaking of visibility... has anyone found any inexpensive ways to make the sides of the bike more visible in the dark (I have a Monster 750 Dark and most of my gear, although mainly Joe Rocket and has reflective pieces, is dark)? I have always thought that I might be hard to see late at night on dark roads even with my gear. Are there any frame clip on lights or reflectors that look good and are easy mount for non-engineers. I did see in the past some really fancy lights that could be mounted, but if your not a motorcyle engineer, you'd have to take the bike to a shop and spend some nice bucks to get them mounted.. and they had to be finagled to fit because they really weren't for Ducks....

Just wondering....

Safety to all (and yes, although I did not post it, I also have a road rash story whereby I always wear my armor now.. I have to admit, my helmet is not always on for short rides during the day, but d**n... it should be!)...
I am intersted in the same thing. I just picked up a 620 Dark. My last ride was white and red and stood out even on dark evenings. I do have an idea that I will be pursuing. Many late 60 and early 70 muscle cars had some pretty outlandish stripe packages. One of the stripes on a 70 Mustang and 71 Road Runner were actually flat black, but had reflective properties that were very bright (almost white) when illuminated. I will be contacting some of the aftermarket strip manufacturers to see if the material is available in bulk sheets. If not, I just may buy a strip or two and cut them up for some subtle pinstriping on the bike.
 

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I have a set of overpants for rain, but here in SoCal it can get a bit warm, so I'm looking for some mesh/textile pants. I have a set of Draggin Cargo's with zip-off legs coming sometime in the near future, so that may help. My shoes are my issue. I ride with steel toe work boots, which are better than nothing, but not the best. Who makes a good sneaker-type show with good protection that doesn't feel like ski boots when you have to walk around??
 

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I like this one better.

http://www.xpd.it/jspxpd/products.jsp?id=17

I use the Icon knee pads and shin protectors, so thats covered. I goes from over the top of the kneecap to almost all the way to my foot. I'm waiting on my Draggin riding pants with extra kevlar sewn into the back of the calves too. All I need now is the Bionic upper body suit, or at least a shoulder/elbow/back setup.
 

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i high sided last september on my s2r 800... in a t shirt, jeans and sneakers.. now i have an extra patch of skin on my left knee, road rash that looks like a bad tan on my left arm, and scars from road rash on the front left and rear left of my hip... i just got the bike back 2 days ago.. so ive learned... accident was a freak accident aswell.. something caused my rear tire to unexpectedly slide out in a hurry.. next thing i was sumersaulting and rolling at 45mph while witnessing my bike hit a parked car.. i still wake up screaming.. [laugh]

nontheless.. ill never ride with out ATLEAST my jacket... lesson learned.. DONT DO IT MY WAY!!
 

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Has anyone noticed a huge difference in riders who live near beaches? I went for a ride along the beach today and I was the only one wearing a jacket of any kind. About half the people had t-shirts. The rest were wearing tank-tops or topless with shorts and sometimes flipflops (on scooters). They were looking at me like I was crazy wearing jeans!
 

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After reading this entire post, I just ordered a pair of Draggin Jeans Kevlar reinforced with the knee armor inserts. Well worth the investment.
http://www.dragginjeans.com/
 

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Update: Slid out entering a freeway (my own fault) and was wearing Icon elbow armor and back protector, Dianese Knee V's, A* gloves, leather jacket, leather high tops (still no boots, me bad), Scorpion helmet (full face, of course), and (gasp) jeans. Asphalt ground through my jacket and jeans, but the armor did it's job. Small section of rash where I slid backwards and the jacket rode up, sore shoulder (hyperextended it I think) but all limbs attached and functioning. DRESS FOR THE CRASH!!! I got hurt the most stepping off the back of the tow truck and popping my knee!
 

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I am intersted in the same thing. I just picked up a 620 Dark. My last ride was white and red and stood out even on dark evenings. I do have an idea that I will be pursuing. Many late 60 and early 70 muscle cars had some pretty outlandish stripe packages. One of the stripes on a 70 Mustang and 71 Road Runner were actually flat black, but had reflective properties that were very bright (almost white) when illuminated. I will be contacting some of the aftermarket strip manufacturers to see if the material is available in bulk sheets. If not, I just may buy a strip or two and cut them up for some subtle pinstriping on the bike.
I've been thinking of using retroreflective tape. I found a couple links if anyone is interested:

http://www.landfallnavigation.com/ssrt1.html

http://www.reflectivelyyours.com/generic120.html
 

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i've been told i did the smart thing by a good friend...i bought all my gear before the bike. i based my gear decision on moto gp riders lol....so i got a alpinestars s-mx airflo jacket, track pants, gp pro gloves and arai rx-7 corsair helmet. my boots are just military combat boots cause i kinda got a big foot :)
 

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I almost always wear my gear too unless I am just putting around the city for errands (there's too many red lights to ever go faster than 30 in the city...)

But as a general rule I wear my gear 95% of the time I ride, after reading this I will wear it 100%.

I have the full Arai helmet, an AVG leather with the elbow, shoulder, and back pads, Icon stealth gloves, Double H Harness Boots, and Draggin Jeans with the kevlar lining and knee pads.

My only problem is my colors are dark but at least I am well covered...
 

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Having trouble finding female protective gear. Ducati jackets don't have armor in them when made for women - and that seems standard. Unless I go into a track suit - or something wildly pink or purple!!! Have the boots and helmet. looking for something with shoulder ARMOR (not padding), elbow ARMOR and back ARMOR. This should be standard for motorcycle gear. The vendors need to wake up and read our posts!!! I'll look into the Joe Rocket Jeans with steel fibers in the lining, thanks for the info!!.
Feel naked without the jacket, helmet and gloves. Really hot days the jacket gets swapped for a plastic chest protector - but I'm taking a chance!!! (Actually, my leather jacket has no padding in the sleeves and elbows, so I've started wearing the bulky plastic chest protector under the leather jacket. It's a real *dainty* look - I look like I could take on Arnold Schwartzeneger!!)
I'd welcome ideas for a woman's jacket with ARMOR.
 

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I wear ICON armor under all my gear, and I move like a sloth. The CE armor is almost worthless. My friend and I had almost identical low side drops, I sprained my shoulder, he shattered his elbow. I wear impact plastic and foam armor, he had the CE stuff. I'm going to get a track suit made for me that has room in the forearm and knee/leg area for the extra armor I wear. Might even look into a jacket built the same way. How come it's an either/or on the armor issue, not an AND issue? I want my leather jacket AND my armor.
 
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