[cassius427]

after test riding both the 999 and s4r I decided to go with the monster. however one of the outstanding things for me about the 999 was the brakes. As I am new to Ducatis can someone guide me through the necessary steps to get the brakes on my s4r to the 999's standard.
I am also considering bst wheels, surflex slipper clutch and maybe a bit of lightened flywheel action.
As it stands my s4r has the dp termi performance kit including sps cams.

 

[moto]

The main difference between the two bikes is the master cylinder and calipers. Both the standard 4 pad calipers and MC are direct bolt ons to the MS4R.
The calipers will make the biggest difference. You will need to add a side mount type brake line. The 999 MC has some clearance issues with clip-ons. If you are considereing clip-ons, you might consider a GP radial MC instead of the 999 version.
Please feel free to call or email us, we can walk you through this swap. We have done many of them and have all the parts in stock.

 

[Capo]

after test riding both the 999 and s4r I decided to go with the monster. however one of the outstanding things for me about the 999 was the brakes. As I am new to Ducatis can someone guide me through the necessary steps to get the brakes on my s4r to the 999's standard.
I am also considering bst wheels, surflex slipper clutch and maybe a bit of lightened flywheel action.
As it stands my s4r has the dp termi performance kit including sps cams.

The DP catalog lists a Ohlins front end kit that includes Brembo radial calipers and true floating 'racing' discs. It is however proving to to be unobtainable, maybe due to the bargain price.

You got a couple of options.

Stay with the Showa's and change the bottoms for radial mounts. Go 108mm as this opens up some exotic calipers. Go for Brembo or AP racing calipers. The std discs will be fine.

Go Ohlins. This means a set of Ohlins RT forks, triple clamps, radial bottoms (you can't get Ohlins to supply the forks with Radial bottoms) then the calipers of your choice. Way more expensive but you'll be at the cutting edge.

 

[slowpoke13]

I am also considering bst wheels, and maybe a bit of lightened flywheel action.

eetarre has the BST carbon fiber wheels on his S4. And, I believe, a lighter flywheel. I'm sure he'd give you quality info.

Ohh, and his BSTs are beautiful.

 

[Capo]

The rotors included in the DP kit are not full floating. BTW after I sold my stock stuff I am into the DP ohlins/radial kit for less then $1500.

If you know where I can get the kit, let me know. Cash waiting ;D

 

[moto]

If you want radial calipers:

We have one piece fork bottoms to convert Showas or Ohlins to 100mm or 108mm radial mounts. We also have some full floating ductile iron rotors from Speiglar

 

[Guest]

the big difference in feel and action on the street is the pad compound and the extra weight you have on the front to plant the tire on the 999.

save your money on forks, calipers and rotors, and buy some real pads for the thing. i was given some dp pads, they made a nice small improvement over the stockers, but galfers or ebc's would be HUGE improvement.

 

[Capo]

Order it from a dealer.

Tried that , the factory has none in stock and won't commit themselves to a delivery date. Tried Stuart at spareshack he is looking around.

 

[cassius427]

If you want radial calipers:

We have one piece fork bottoms to convert Showas or Ohlins to 100mm or 108mm radial mounts. We also have some full floating ductile iron rotors from Speiglar

How much would all parts for this conversion cost (showa radial fork bottoms, Callipers and mastercylinder). Have I omitted anything?
Thanks for the info guys ;D

 

[moto]

billet bottoms for Showa: $950 pair
brembo 4 pad radial caliper/pads: $209 each
SS Speigler swivel end brake line: $158

optional:
Brembo GP radial master cylinder: $250
Mini Brake switch: $18


You can save a lot of money by going to the standard mount brembo 4 pad caliper. It works 98% as well for only $195 each and you do not need to change the fork bottom mount. It will bolt directly on.

 

[cassius427]

billet bottoms for Showa: $950 pair
brembo 4 pad radial caliper/pads: $209 each
SS Speigler swivel end brake line: $158

optional:
Brembo GP radial master cylinder: $250
Mini Brake switch: $18


You can save a lot of money by going to the standard mount brembo 4 pad caliper. It works 98% as well for only $195 each and you do not need to change the fork bottom mount. It will bolt directly on.

thanks for the info. think i will go for the standard mount 4pad brrembo if they are just as good

 

[peter2]

I have an S4R and wanted to do a brake upgrade after riding a 999. I put the four pad calipers on and feel that I'm much closer to 999 performance braking than the stock S4R braking. Try the four pad calipers and that might be all you need. They were about $370 for the pair including shipping. You also need to change your front brake line when you do that. Other than that, it's a direct bolt-on installation. I sold my stock calipers for about $200, so it's a very cost effective upgrade. If you feel you need more performance than that, you can start playing around with different pads. The GP master is not as much of a performance upgrade as the four pad calipers.

I also installed the Surflex slipper on my bike. It was easy, except that you'll need a 19mm allen for installation. I couldn't find one locally, so I made one using a bolt with a 19mm head. The Surfles slipper works great. You still have to be careful when downshifting in delicate situations, but it makes it a lot easier.

Unless you ride like Rossi the majority of the time, I don't think that Ohlins is a justafiable for the S4R. My last bike was a monster S4 and the stock rear shock was Sachs and it was junk. I put an Ohlins shock on the back and it was a great improvement. The S4R comes with Showa pieces front and rear, and are not garbage. Make sure the springs are good for your weight and set up correctly. For the street, Ohlins only raises the bling factor on the S4R.

 

[peter2]

Depends. Mine is much more plush then my stock stuff was.

That is dependant on how you set it up.  Both the Showa and Ohlins pieces have pretty effective ranges of adjustment, unlike the Sachs shocks on lesser monsters.  Also, if you overloaded the stock spring, going to a firmer spring would actually make the ride more plush because you wouldn't have to jack up the preload as much.

I should also add that the Ohlins stuff is really nice and if someone wanted to put it on my bike, I'd be all for it...

 

[PatrickD]

just got in the calipers and lines from a 999 for my 05 S4R. can anyone advise how the line routing went using the stock line brackets?