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What are all these phoney auctions that keep poping up! Anything too good to be true is bound to be a scam.
 

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The bike is listed as in the US but the sellers ID is in the UK.
 

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No worries, I just reported the auction to ebay. I hate the thought of some excited kid (much like myself) getting $2,000 stolen from him. Thank you all for keeping an eye out and watching out for everybody!
 

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Re: S4R- $5k on Ebay?  I think not...

Interesting to look at the other items that the seller has....Hmmm...Aprilia Futura for the same price as the S4r.

Also a pair of Tartan Baby Pajamas. More along the lines of the seller's EBay 'shop' - NIKKIS BARGAIN BASEMENT BONANZA.
 

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On the 999 Testaretta, I received the following reply from the "seller" when I asked him where he was and when I could have the bike in Alaska (where I live)"

"right now i am in east of europe in country of romania....you can pay me via western union and i will send you the bike via a special delivery via Express Forward or Shipp Star Service,and i will pay for all the shipping taxes and the insurance and you will receive the bike in around 72hours or maybe less directlly to your door"


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Yeah, that other one was a good one too. Bike in UK, but seller in Canada. And no feedback.
 

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Yeah,

I think these things work just like email spam: They don't care that 99.9% of people know it's a scam. They are looking for the 5 or 10 people who don't know better (or are greedy) and will send off a "deposit" money order or something.

It's usually only a "deposit," but hey 5 people sending you $2,000 makes for a nice income.

These things are all over: Ebay, Craiglist, Cycletrader, some big newspapers.... It appears that the gullible are open to exploitation in the brave new world--I never hear about the cops worldwide getting these scammers. It's sad: when I sold my bike, I had to tell the buyer no way when he wanted to bring a cashier's check (on the weekend). Just couldn't take a chance with all the counterfeits out there.

Oh well, like the lottery..these scams are a tax on the reality/math-challenged.

--Scammed Out--
 

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Yeah.

I feel like I'm kinda insulting people, but I just explain it to them: "Sorry, but there are lots of scammy things going around. I don't mean to imply that you are a bad person, but my bank told me not to accept cashier's checks." That's a fib, but I just can't chance losing thousands to a counterfeit check.

Sad, but that's the modern world....

--Sad Tom--
 
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Another option to the cash-only method is to accompany the buyer to their bank and have them wire the funds right there or draw the casheir's check right there. A bit of a hassle, but worth it as it means you're guaranteed the money is there.

When I bought my Monster last year, I paid with a personal check from my Vanguard money market account. The seller was a super cool guy who I sort of "clicked" with... too much, actually as I didn't drive a very hard bargain because I liked the guy so much.. it was great for mutual trust in the deal, but in retrospect, we were both a bit foolishly trusting of one another... it worked out great in this instance, but I shudder when I see stories like the recent one in Seattle of a guy getting stabbed and mugged while trying to sell his bike...
 

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Wow. "Same" bike, different seller.

Is there a fraud email at ebay you can report these to?
 

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Re: S4R- $5k on Ebay?  I think not...

He's got a 'Busa for the same price....

How lucky we are to have such wondeful folks on EBay, selling bikes at a fraction of their actual dealer cost. Warms my heart to see such philanthropy in this cold, hard world.

Hmmm.....S4R..'Busa......S4R..'Busa......S4R..'Busa......S4R..'Busa?

Which one should I buy? Well, hell, they're cheap, I'll get 'em both!

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