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So there's recruiter trying to get me to interview with a company up in Seattle. The job sounds like a perfect fit for me, and me for it. The only problem is that my fiance doesn't like the idea of moving from Houston. She says that Seattle is always cloudy and rainy and we don't have friends up there and that she doesn't know if she'll be able to work (she's a massage therapist and works in a spa in a sorta rich area of Houston, so lots of big tipping clients). What she really means to say is that she doesn't want to leave Houston where all her friends and family live and where she's comfortable.

I already told the recruiter no, but he called back 3 times trying to get me to at least interview. He said I have a lot of negotiating power because there aren't a lot of people out there with my experience that are looking for jobs. Plus the fact that I already have a job that I like.

What I need is some help convincing her that it's not all that bad. Unless it is, then I would appreciate your honesty. ;) One thing I have to ask is about the cost of living. It's supposed to be much higher in Seattle than in Houston, but how much?

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My bro is renting a house in sammamish which is about 30 min from seattle for ~$2k. I'm renting a house for free until I move out of my bros house (just moved here myself). So far thats an average of $1k/month for a house in a good quiet neighborhood. Not bad!

It's really not always rainy. For instance, this week it didn't rain on Wednesday (during the day at least).
 

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But seriously, the first thing I noticed when I moved in is that there is a special feeling in the area. Like, everywhere you go everyone seems relatively content with life. Especially noticeable is when you go to the store or to a restaurant everyone is really nice. The city is really clean, and there's stuff to see. Seems like there's a reasonable night life around here.

Although maybe its just the time spent in WI that serves to juxtapose my experience?

The weather has been good so far, and if it doesn't get much colder, I'm gonna laugh at the next seattlite who complains because of the cold. Again, maybe its the whole WI thing.

Any other reason you or she would want to move here besides work? You like fish? Pike's place is sweet.

There are lots of trees, and you can feel it (the air is noticeably more refreshing).


What are you planning on living in?
 

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But seriously, the first thing I noticed when I moved in is that there is a special feeling in the area. Like, everywhere you go everyone seems relatively content with life. Especially noticeable is when you go to the store or to a restaurant everyone is really nice. The city is really clean, and there's stuff to see. Seems like there's a reasonable night life around here.
That is due to the weed being top notch

It looks like the washingtonians are encroaching again

Somebody go get the gimp

we need a cleansing

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Ok, I don't actually live in Seattle (I'm in Olympia), but there does seem to be a lot of people into massage in the greater Seattle area. And there are a lot of people that seem to have a lot of extra $$ for tipping and such. That doesn't mean that they do!! Don't forget that Microsoft is here... maybe you need to live in Redmond!

It is very cloudy here in the winter, but the best place in the summer!! And there is lots to do in Seattle in the winter.

Good luck no matter what happens!!
 
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Just one comment "if the woman is not happy no one is happy". Women are very solidified in their relationships....don't convince her and have her regret it.........Seattle is cloudy/ rainy and in some people can cause depression........Put the little woman first -- or make sure she is convinced and happy about going or there will be trouble in the long run...........


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Thanks, Avocado, for confirming my fears. ;) I'm currently paying $900/month for a 3 bedroom apt with a nice patio and garden in the coolest part of Houston (it was a lucky find). And as far as the weather, I figured winter was rainy and summer was not, but what about fall and spring? We don't usually have those two seasons in Houston, what about up there? Seriously tho, I have visited the Northwest and generally like the people and attitude, so I know I could make new friends with no problem. I don't know where I would want to live, but I would like to be in a house rather than in a apartment, or at the very least a townhouse.

As for the weed being top notch, I'm sure she will really appreciate that. I think that deep down she's just afraid of moving there and having to go without due to a lack of a connection. I do have one friend from college that lives there, and I'm sure she could help her out in that department.

I also told her not to worry about finding clients. Her clients here in Houston are very loyal to her because she is so good. I figure with all the microsoft people with money in Seattle, she'll have no problem finding a similar clientele as River Oaks in Houston.

Lisa, you are all too true. I know that her feelings are our feelings. Hell, I even have a reminder on my phone that beeps each month to remind me that it's that time again and the apartment better be clean, no hairs on the sink or toilet, kitty litter better be clean, and the kitchen better be spotless. I found out that it's way easier to do all that cleaning than to have to deal with the consequences if it's not done. However, if we don't go and I regret it, I better just keep that to myself, or I'll regret that I regretted it. Why are women so crazy in the brain? ::)

Anyway, the job is with Imperium Renewables, helping to design their new plant in Grays Harbor. To me it's an exciting job, cause that's what I've always wanted to do. From watching my dad do the same thing, taking us as a family from Ecuador, to Peru, to Saudi Arabia and Sudan, then to Houston, I've always dreamed of doing the same. I've been working as a Process Engineer learning how plants run so that some day I can have a hand in designing one using all that I've learned. This opportunity is the culmination of everything I grew up around and studied my entire life. AND it's a biodiesel plant, so I would be contributing to helping the US become less dependent on foreign oil or something like that.
 

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hunt2 said:
Just one comment "if the woman is not happy no one is happy". Women are very solidified in their relationships....don't convince her and have her regret it.........Seattle is cloudy/ rainy and in some people can cause depression........Put the little woman first -- or make sure she is convinced and happy about going or there will be trouble in the long run...........
+1 first of all.

My wife and I moved to Seattle almost 4 years ago from the san Francisco area (we lived in Oakland...I worked in SF, her in San Jose). I previously lived in Reno and Vegas (grew up there), her mostly in Boise.

We both feel Seattle is the nicest place we have ever lived and have no desire to move. On a nice day it has to be in the top 5 most beautiful cities in the US. Everyone is laid back, great food everywhere, good nightlife and music, and endless outdoor activities. Summertime weather is amazing...sunny and it rarely gets above 85.

But, there are downsides as well. Seattle is expensive...not SF expensive, but not too far off. We bought a new 3-bedroom townhome in a so-so neighborhood 3 years ago for just under $300K. Our current house is in a great neighborhood, but is a little small, was built in 1947 (so we have endless projects if we want to), and it was between $450K and $500K. The upside to these prices is the market is still doing well. For renting you could get a nice house in a good neighborhood for <$1500/month probably.

The weather takes getting used to. It's not that cold, but it does rain a lot, and it's cloudy a lot from late October through April/May or so. winter temps are usually in the 40's, but its wet so it feels cold. A couple very minor snows a winter, but it melts quickly. Getting used to everything being wet for 6-7 months straight was the biggest thing for us. Also, being so far north, the amount of daylight varies widly with seasons. In the summer it starts getting light at 5am and gets dark at 10pm...awesome! [thumbsup] In the dead of winter it starts getting light at 8, and gets dark at 4:30...and sometimes on bad days never seems to get fully light due to the cloud cover. Not so awesome. :'(

Oh yeah...Seattle/Portland is to beer what Napa is to wine. ;D ;D There are 3 micro-breweries within a couple iles of my house.

Hope that helps. Overall, we love it here, but wish there was a little more sun and it was cheaper.
 

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Dude;

If you love Houston, and your girl is a Houstonian, you will hate Seattle. I lived in Texas for four years; this isn't anything like Texas. The people who smoke weed are usually nice; everyone else isn't. Seattle is not all friendly and nice, like people seem to think; it's a big town that acts like a bigger city. People are rude and unfriendly; there's no common courtesy in this town; there's also no common sense in this town.

The weather is marginal from October to June; from June to September it is Eden, for sure. People say, "it's close the mountians and there's so much to do." Yeah, it's fun sitting in stop and go traffic trying to get to the fun with everyone else.

If you want to be like your dad and travel and work on cool projects, don't get married; this girl doesn't want that. Your girl could make serious bank here, no doubt. If she doesn't want to move, don't move here.

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Dude;

If you love Houston, and your girl is a Houstonian, you will hate Seattle. I lived in Texas for four years; this isn't anything like Texas. The people who smoke weed are usually nice; everyone else isn't. Seattle is not all friendly and nice, like people seem to think; it's a big town that acts like a bigger city. People are rude and unfriendly; there's no common courtesy in this town; there's also no common sense in this town.
[laugh] Not everyone likes Seattle! ;)

We've found most everyone friendly. That's part of why traffic sucks...everyone needs to just take their damn turn and quit letting people in!!! ;D
 

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We generally hunt down the right wing extremists and burn bras on the trees in their front yard. [cheeky]

I agree though, Houston and Seattle are very different. The cost of living isn't as high as I thought before looking it up for this post. Washington State is 35th of 50 so actually pretty good: http://www.ded.mo.gov/researchandplanning/indicators/cost_of_living/index.stm. However, living in the Greater Seattle area isn't like living in Pullman so it sort of depends on what kind of housing you end up wanting/needing. I think the median price of first time houses in King County is in the $400k+ range (vague recollection).

30 years ago when my family moved here from California my mom hated this place because of the rain. Bringing your woman here in the beginning of the rainy season you'd have a more difficult time getting her to like the weather we have, and want to stay for any length of time. Eventually you get used to it and if you enjoy snow sports you actually look forward to it as when it rains in the lowlands there is a good chance that it snows in the mountains only an hour away (during winter of course). If you take the job I say you get a delayed start until May/June when the flowers start blooming and the sky turns a bit more blue than grey. Otherwise be prepared to increase her clothing budget.

Best of luck to ya!
 

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I lived in Houston and for being in Texas its Quite a nice place, very cosmopolitan. I lived in Dallas it sucked, I moved to Washington state nine years ago (from Dallas) and now live in Tacoma. For me living here is much much better (even in Tacoma). If you can come visit with your better half you might get a feel for the place and help with decision making. Thats what I did,visited,liked moved,no regrets. [thumbsup]
 

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Thanks for the input guys. It appears I have a lot to think about. Can't think too much tho, I have an interview with the President of the company on Wednesday over the phone. Maybe I should just go ahead and sabotage it so that I don't get an offer. That way I don't have to decide. I can just keep asking if they drug test over and over. [laugh]
 

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Remember: Happy Wife = Happy Life.......
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So what you're saying is that I need to ditch this one and find a happy one? Sounds a bit harsh, but okay. ;)

The interview went horribly wrong. I'm pretty good at interviews, but I managed to screw this one up. I made a classic error by talking too much. I was in a borrowed truck, with no a/c, wearing my Nomex (fire-proof boiler suit), on my cell phone talking to two guys on a speaker phone (it was hard to hear them). I gave too much personal information and rambled on about stuff that I should have just cut short. I wasn't even trying to do it on purpose.

Anyway, today I got a call from the recruiter and he told me the interview went great and they would like to fly me to Seattle for a second interview in person. Doh! Oh well, free trip to Seattle at least. [laugh]
 

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So what you're saying is that I need to ditch this one and find a happy one? Sounds a bit harsh, but okay. ;)

The interview went horribly wrong. I'm pretty good at interviews, but I managed to screw this one up. I made a classic error by talking too much. I was in a borrowed truck, with no a/c, wearing my Nomex (fire-proof boiler suit), on my cell phone talking to two guys on a speaker phone (it was hard to hear them). I gave too much personal information and rambled on about stuff that I should have just cut short. I wasn't even trying to do it on purpose.

Anyway, today I got a call from the recruiter and he told me the interview went great and they would like to fly me to Seattle for a second interview in person. Doh! Oh well, free trip to Seattle at least. [laugh]
Nice! Give a shout out and we'll buy you a drink
 

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Haha! Sweet welcome to Seattle. Area.
 
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