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G'day everyone!

I recently (May 2015) purchase from a Ducati dealership a second hand 2013 1100 Evo for $17,000 with 2000kms on the clock and in perfect condition. I've only done about 400kms on her since as I'm fifo worker and we've just come out of winter down here. But what and awsome 400k's it's been. She's already got Tremi pipes and abit of carbon bling.

My one main ride was with a mate who rides a fully worked Harley. We were having abit of fun as you do and we were pretty even but I just got the upper hand on him. As most of my mates ride Harleys I don't want to "just" beat them I want to smoke them haha.

I've been trolling through this fourm for over a month and I've haven't found much on proformance modifications except for the ol' 14T frount spocket and was wondering what advice any of you have to make her go that bit quicker.

I spoke to a Ducati specialist today to see what they recommend. They said to unlock the ECU and full dyno tune was $770, 14T sprocket $65, removal and refit of lightend flywheel and replace the oil for $596 and I'm also looking at getting a Rizoma riser for the handle bars (unsure weather to go 42mm or 60mm) at $155 fitted. They are also pricing up a piston kit for me and I will get back to you when they send me more information on it.

My question to you is have any of you guys (or girls) done any of the modifications above, particularly the lightend flywheel and and piston work? Any information is greatly appreciated.

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* All prices in AUD
 

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Hi guys just a little update.

I've figured out I'm going to get the flywheel lightend, 14T frount sprocket, Hi-Comp pistons, a big bore kit, rear fender eliminator, handle bar riser, ECU tune and dyno. They have given me a rough idea of about a 30-35HP increase and it's going to cost me about $5.5k (AUD).

Like I've said before any information from you guys out there would be muchly appreciated.

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Man, that's a lot of money. I think you'd have been better off getting a supersport and not having to do any mods.

All I have are a competition werkes exhaust and a K&N air filter.

Congrats on the purchase though.
 

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Agree with 1UB. Buy a supersport for more reliability compared to a modified motor.

I suggest you ask your "Ducati Specialist" just how much improvement you will realize by replacing the flywheel with a lightened one, considering that the 1100evo already has a lightened flywheel?

I could certainly be wrong, but a 30% power increase is very optimistic. I also wonder what the Hp and Torque curves would look like?
 

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That's a lot of cash for a recently acquired bike and I'm presuming your first Monster. Ride it for 4,000km and then see what takes your fancy for spending. Just my opinion...

The 14T sprocket is good for around town but performance wise...not sure that's a gain and obviously reduces your top speed. Hi Comp pistons are good based on my own experience.

I would go for a custom ECU and Dyno tune for the $770. Will probably add a few HP and will give you a good baseline for the other mods.

That being said, if you've got the cash then go at 'er and share the stats with us!

Congrats on your purchase!
 

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An 1100 Evo should "smoke" a Harley without having to spend any money! Ha Ha!

Seriously you've got 100HP, (prob' less if you've fitted Termi's without a DP ECU). How much more do you want?
 

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Personally, I would do that ECU flash, throw a pipe on it, and spend the rest of the money on a set of forged Marchesini wheels (for some REAL weight savings that you will immediately notice).
 

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An 1100 Evo should "smoke" a Harley without having to spend any money! Ha Ha!

Seriously you've got 100HP, (prob' less if you've fitted Termi's without a DP ECU). How much more do you want?

You say it should smoke a Harley, but some Harleys are pushing like1800cc's. Depends on the bike. I dont think smoking a Harley in the straights should be a benchmark but to each their own. I do agree that a superbike or new gen monster might be better.
 

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You say it should smoke a Harley, but some Harleys are pushing like1800cc's. Depends on the bike. I dont think smoking a Harley in the straights should be a benchmark but to each their own. I do agree that a superbike or new gen monster might be better.
Uh huh, and what would be the weight, HP and torque of those stock Harleys be? :crying

Agreed that straight line performance is but one aspect of a bike's performance statistic, but I surely do love embarrassing those gay pirates foolish enough to believe their chrome machines are as fast as they are loud. :devil
 

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Well like the vrod has 123hp and 84tq. The 1700cc vmax has 174hp and 113tq. These, like the Diavel, are not the common bike on the road and are more straight line performers than even the Diavel, let alone the Monster. A honda goldwing 1800cc motor has 118hp and 123tq and a harley sportster 1200cc has 70hp and 79tq.

So there are some numbers. Im sure the Monster has better power to weight than most bikes but it may not DESTROY a Harley. Probably need a superbike.
 

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Man, that's a lot of money. I think you'd have been better off getting a supersport and not having to do any mods.

All I have are a competition werkes exhaust and a K&N air filter.

Congrats on the purchase though.
What did you do about already lean mapping on the bike? Do you adjust the fuel mapping to compensate from the new exhaust and filter?
 

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Hi guys just a little update.

I've figured out I'm going to get the flywheel lightend, 14T frount sprocket, Hi-Comp pistons, a big bore kit, rear fender eliminator, handle bar riser, ECU tune and dyno. They have given me a rough idea of about a 30-35HP increase and it's going to cost me about $5.5k (AUD).

Like I've said before any information from you guys out there would be muchly appreciated.

Cheers
While I'm sure you will be happy with the end result I think you will be let down by the number on the dyno sheet.

I would expect something along the lines of a 12-15hp boost at best. NCR's 2V 1160cc stroker motor is only putting out 132hp. That's with a forged stroker crank, Ti rods, cams, valves, headwork, dripping with carbon & magnesium, to the tune of ~$21K USD.

I know I wouldn't want to have one between my legs with a stock crank/rods for a 130+hp dyno pull.
 

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Agree with 1UB. Buy a supersport for more reliability compared to a modified motor.

I suggest you ask your "Ducati Specialist" just how much improvement you will realize by replacing the flywheel with a lightened one, considering that the 1100evo already has a lightened flywheel?

I could certainly be wrong, but a 30% power increase is very optimistic. I also wonder what the Hp and Torque curves would look like?
supersports are heavy and gross
 

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So I own a Diavel and my wife rides the 1100evo. She has no problem keeping up with me. I can out accelerate her but in the corners were fairly equal. I think the Diavel is much more civil despite the extra 62 HP. I always feel like the 1100evo is crazy and raw. The front end lifts up so easy and digs into corners. I wouldn't touch a thing on it. I also love my Diavel and haven't found another bike I'd trade it for, it sure is nice to ride the evo from time to time.
 

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Hey dude! I think its worth attacking this from a different angle as well as tuning and bolt-on's. Try lightening the bike as much as you can. One thing the monster has on it over a Hardley Worthitson is power to weight. The difference in performance will be small but every bit helps. I'm not saying you need to buy the titanium frame or magnesium swing arm (and believe these exist). Start with pulling off the passenger foot pegs and go from there. If the battery dies, spring for a lighter one. Every little bit helps.
 

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did you remap the ECU?? when you installed the k&N filter and the CW exhaust? i just got my Monster 1100 evo 2013 is the 14 T for less aggressive?
I ran with my CW slipon for 6 months without a remap/flash of the ECU. Bent a valve and while they had it I had them remap it. Took all the pops out, has ran great ever since (over a year ago).
 

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To Jimmy.
To be honest I do not recommend that you have a lighter flywheel installed for street use. The stock flywheel having more mass results in more rotation inertia which is to the benefit of offline acceleration. The main reason for installing a lighter flywheel is to smooth out acceleration when coming out of a corner - this results in less chance of loosing traction at the rear wheel.
This will not produce any more engine power.
As for higher compression pistons - again not for street use as this will produce more engine heat and since these engines are air cooled this will have a negative effect in traffic situations.
You can go ahead and do the mapping and front sprocket as these are simple to change if you discover that this is not what you want.
And you can be sure as others have mentioned - you will not get 30 more hp. from the above mentioned mods.
 

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If you want to make it lighter....... Carbon fiber rims! Just my 2 cents. :devil

Post a picture of your bike, did you remap it? Got an update for us?
 

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I'm not sure about the prices over there, but is the amount of money you're spending on mods enough to trade in your bike for a slightly used 1200S? That's 130 horsepower to start with and it was made to handle that kind of power. It should probably also have better resale for when you decide you actually wanted a street fighter.

But it also depends on whether you are trying to out accelerate the harley, beat it around corners or pull away from it when it's at 130MPH.

If you really really want to smoke him, buy a kawasaki ZX14. Make sure your will is up to date before you race. ;)
 
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