[CETME]

Well.. for those who read my first post about the filter.... It happened again.

This time I was riding down a residential street and my rear end started fishtailing like nothing I've ever seen... I tried to get it undercontrol but after about 75ft of futile attempts of gaining control, I went down....

Oil filter leaked again, and smothered my rear tire in Rotella Synthetic Oil..... I had no chance of bringing the rear back again....

I really hate to publicize bad news about a company like this.. but I already gave away the name in my other post.... I havent installed it wrong.... I change oil for a living for goodness sakes... and I triple checked everything after the first incident.. you can bet on that.

I cant get a hold of anyone at Scottsperformance... but I'm going to contact them and see what they say....

Good news:

I LOVE YOU CYCLE CAT!! the frame sliders saved my bike.... it came out 100% perfect..... only had a little dirt on it. If anyone is on the fence about buying these....... here's one vote in CC's favor!

My Cycle cat bar end sliders also saved my throttle...... I love these guys!

 

[krista_k]

Re: Oil Filter Woes part 2

hi Cetme,

sorry to hear about the spill!!! but glad that you're ok!

one thing to think about ... it is possible that some part of your engine was machined incorrectly. zina's 1995 900ss/cr had an issue where the oil filter would leak unless it had like 40 ft-lb of torque on it. i'm certain that either the post to which the filter threads was not straight or the seat where the gasket seals was somehow "wrong".

but yeah... everything IS rather pointing to one thing.

good luck!
chris

 

[Guest]

Re: Oil Filter Woes part 2

I take it you are using some kind of aftermarket filter?

Why? What's wrong with the factory filter?

Esp. if you already had the aftermarket one fail once.

Glad to year you are ok - just curious.

 

[CETME]

Re: Oil Filter Woes part 2

Well.... its a billet oil filter... its reusable... the filter element is a steel mesh that is cleanable..

Simply unscrew the filter, and clean it out with solvent, and reinstall it. at 10-12 a pop for a Ducati filter, I figured I'd give this billet one a shot..... it was $100 but I figured that by 5000 miles I would have spent the same IF I had bought Ducati filters...

This filter also looked trick, so I figured I'd give a shot......

http://www.scottsperformance.com/products.php?PartType=3

 

[Guest]

Re: Oil Filter Woes part 2

Well.... its a billet oil filter... its reusable... the filter element is a steel mesh that is cleanable..

Simply unscrew the filter, and clean it out with solvent, and reinstall it.

 

[CETME]

Re: Oil Filter Woes part 2

ooops.. forgot a 1 in front of that 5000.....

Its obvious to me now that I should use the Ducati filter......

I own three Mustangs, Two of which I race. All three use Motorcraft FL1A filters exclusively....

With this motorcycle, i decided to try something different, (my first mistake) ... and I heard a few people who liked their Scotts Billet filter, so i thought I'd give a try..... Handling the filter, it looks well made, the fit and finish of the parts are very good.... I will give them credit on that...

I think I know WHY it's been leaking... not that its any help..... I'll be getting a Ducati filter in the morning...

 

[krista_k]

Re: Oil Filter Woes part 2

for those who are poo-poo-ing aftermarket filters, we've got about 100,000 miles on our ducatis using the perf-form ones that i sell. they have synthetic filtering media and well made bypass.

the K&N ones also use synthetic media. and feature hex nut on top of filter for ease of R&R.

i have had a couple people complain about some oil seepage with the perf-form and i suggested that they tighten a little more. no one has reported serious problems with perf form nor has anyone followed up on my suggestions (or "make good" offers) with the perf form, so i can only believe that they all work well. i can't count how many of those i've sold.

BTW, while many OEM manufacturers use fairly inexpensive filter cartridges, Ducati are among the best OEM manufacturer filters out there and are on par with the best of the aftermarket one.

also, there is already a bypass in the oil system.

just a little info to help y'all make informed decisions.
chris

 

[CETME]

Re: Oil Filter Woes part 2

Thanks for the info Chris! Whats the scoop on these Perf-form Filters you have?

I work at an Oil Change place, so I've seen many a filter..... They are actually all good, save FRAM and the companies they make filters for.... (new quaker state, and pennzoil)

I wouldnt hesitate to use a Perfform or a K&N filter (or others) in My bike if they:
1.) Made in USA
2.) Have Metal Endcaps
3.) Have decent quality control

Much in the same way I would use an AC/Delco on my Mustangs.

 

[arecarless]

Re: Oil Filter Woes part 2  Monster Down...Th

also, there is already a bypass in the oil system.

So, when would a second bypass kick in? Would it reroute thick oil during cold starts? Or warm oil that's so thick it should've been changed long ago?

I filled my last filter all the way to the top during my last oil change. Figured it would prevent a second or two of dry running when I fired 'er up again. If you're correct, I could skip that step.

Thanks for the free tip,
Rene Carlos

 

[SoCalSar]

Re: Oil Filter Woes part 2

arecarless, don't skip filling up the filter. The bypass will not do anything for the filter "running dry". The filter is only bypassed when a certain pressure differential is reached between the inlet and outlet sides of the filter- one example would be a filter clogged so badly that the inlet pressure rose enough to cause bypass. More common is bypass because the oil is still cold, therefore thick. As it warms up it will begin flowing through the filter.

 

[krista_k]

Re: Oil Filter Woes part 2

Thanks for the info Chris!