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Hi all,

Well I´ve gone and done my first trackday with the Rs! It was an amazing experience.. it started off at bit crooked and ended up a bit more crooked but the bit in between were ace!

My buddy Alvaro (Kawa 636 Ninja) was on his way to pick me up with the trailer and his bike fell (he´s never tied down a bike before) on the trailer - luckily it didn´t hit the ground! Anway, we got the bikes loaded and were off on our way to sunny Valencia! Wednesday 6th was pretty much journey to Valencia, washing and prepping the bikes for the track and trying to sleep with all the nerves etc. A good 450gram sirloin helped calmed the tummy a bit.

The big day itself was awesome. We arrived early at the track to get a decent box (41) and unloaded the bikes and all the tools, drinks, food, paddock stands, tire warmers etc. I had a transponder fitted to see what my times would be first time on a track compared to other more experienced riders and track day hooligans.

I was put in the fast group and we were first out - the first laps were absolutely horrible as I was using all the gears and that front end just wouldn´t keep down.. it was lifting up in 5th gear!! Also I kept blocking the rear wheel - all my senses were f´d up as the speeds were so much higher than I´m used to on the road. I was told to use 3rd gear minimum and to just try using up to 5th max to get used to the track.. it worked! This was on brand new Dunlop GP 208 RR tires (slithering around for the first half of the first lap).

Times for first session (6 laps) with monitor:

2:49:240
2:29:272
2:18:765
2:20:197 (yellow flag)
2:15:631
2:19:053

The second session was much better, riding much smoother and using the rev limiter for upshifts (just when it is about to cut in).. the bike was flying!

Times for second session (5 laps) with monitor:

2:13:890
2:21:749 (yellow flag)
2:13:092
2:14:804
2:12:766

The third session was an open session without a monitor and I could really open up the Rs on the straight and play around with different corner entry and exit points.. apexing late and later etc. Apparently I nearly had the bar ends on the floor, I did grind my elbow >:D

2:17:172
2:05:964
2:08:393
2:04:726
2:02:610 (my fastest and 6th fastest of all who used transponders)

The fourth session was a bit crap.. it started getting cold, there was a fierce wind and the track was cold. We went out with a monitor anyway.

2:29:048
2:16:085
2:23:083
2:24:476
2:18:216

The fifth session was not too good either, the weather changed - it went from comfy (around 18 degrees Celcius) to cold (around 10 degrees celcius or less). It started raining - no heavy stuff just light drops with the occasional big drop here and there. I should NOT have gone out. I hit the deck on the last lap coming out of a double right hander - I got high sided and ended up surfing asphalt.. nothing major happened, just a sprained ankle.

2:12:625
2:09:576
2:07:494
2:07:738
2:05:406
43:15:934 ( i was taken to the hospital )

The Dunlops were great, it´s a shame that Cheste has 9 left handers and only 5 right handers (mostly slow) - my rear tire didn´t warm up too well even after 5 laps out on the last session and (someone recorded the crash) I came in just as hot as the previous lap (my monitor crashed 2 curves previous to where I crashed) but I opened the gas a bit too much. The result, as per video, was much much smoke as the rear end scrabbled for grip.. when it did grip I went flying down the track.

There was no major damage to the bike, the rear brake pedal is ground down to nothing and the clutch cover dented. I´ve fixed this by getting my neighbour´s Dremel onto the clutch cover, which is now half open and the brake pedal is on order.

Thank you R&G for the sliders - they saved the bike AGAIN!!!

Thank you Nankai for saving my skin.

Thank you Forcefield for keeping my back safe!

Thank you Oxtar for boots that kept me from a broken ankle!

Thank you Shoei (I f*cked my XR1000 Moore Replica) for keeping my noggin in one piece.

Attached are some pics - there is also a video by Vicent.. once the title is over I´m the nut on the white monster sparking my sliders on the first left hander and yes that trajectory is wide - I ride that way.

Cajonez was going to come and meet us but the weather was very bad and he had to turn back. I also met D.P. at the track - was a pleasure!




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Statler said:
Sounds like an awsome time (right up until the crash).

Glad you and the bike are mostly OK.

I do believe you're hooked, yes?

C
Hey Chris.. you can bet I´m hooked! God does the Rs haul ass around that circuit. You´ve gotta give it a shot!

The fastest time of the day was 1:58:xxx - I think I did well for first time on a track.

The only thing upsetting me is that I couldn´t use the brakes fully as they are just too powerful!

Let´s hope I get the video of the highside and the prof. pics soon.

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Hi NuTTs, It was very nice meeting you at Cheste -- and watching you ride at such amazing speeds around the track. I am glad you are doing fine despite the fall. I had lots of fun myself on my first trackday with the S4Rs. Even at a more relaxed pace than yours, it was a thrill riding it in on the track in Valencia.
 

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DP said:
Hi NuTTs, It was very nice meeting you at Cheste -- and watching you ride at such amazing speeds around the track. I am glad you are doing fine despite the fall. I had lots of fun myself on my first trackday with the S4Rs. Even at a more relaxed pace than yours, it was a thrill riding it in on the track in Valencia.
The pleasure was mine, I hope we can meet up at the next ducatistas.com track day.. I understand it will be in March sometime.

I wish my speeds were high, I was hoping to get under the 2:00 marker. Never mind, there is always next time.

Next time I´ll bring the Vespa as my pit-bike!

Hasta pronto!
 

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NuTTs said:
Well nuts, Nutts. I'm envious as hell. Not of the crash but of your whole experience at the track. Someday, maybe, I'll get to one.

BTW -- is that what you call a "highside"? Sort of looks like a spinout lowside to me. ::) I always thought of a highside as what happens when the son of a bitch bites and flips you over the top of the bike. I know, picky, picky, picky.

Great stuff anyway and thanks so much for sharing that with us less fortunates. Seriously.
 

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Mac900 said:
Well nuts, Nutts. I'm envious as hell. Not of the crash but of your whole experience at the track. Someday, maybe, I'll get to one.

BTW -- is that what you call a "highside"? Sort of looks like a spinout lowside to me. ::) I always thought of a highside as what happens when the son of a bitch bites and flips you over the top of the bike. I know, picky, picky, picky.

Great stuff anyway and thanks so much for sharing that with us less fortunates. Seriously.
You are soo right, it was a lowside - I´m still half drugged with a swollen ankle so my mistake. I tell you what though, when you go through the process it feels like you´ve been through the works but later on in video it doesn´t look so bad!
 

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I don't think there's any good get off. If you go down, something is usually gonna hurt. Just sometimes more than others.

So.......... how'd the Termi's do?
 

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The termis.. well as per the pic are intact but a bit bent. I´m having the pipes taken to a specialist who has a machine that inflates the tubes with very high pressure air and they heat the damaged area at the same time and usually the dent pops out. That´s the theory, we´ll see what the results are in a week or so.

I took the bike for a ride today, jeez when the mechanic told me he´d pumped up the CO a bit for more high end punch he was right it´s a beast on the roads! I´ll have that trimmed down at the same time until the next track day otherwise it´ll be gobbling up fuel like there is no tomorrow.

I used up 2 x full tanks for 190km of track riding.
 

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gm2 said:
glad you're ok!

that was a weird one. sort of a low-highside.
thanks man.. when I fell off I really thought it was a high side but after watching the video it is a low side.. who knows what it was I´m just glad I only twisted my ankle

Vindingo said:
Sorry to see that you dropped the bike..... have you analized the vid and determined why and how you crashed?
yep, I didn´t take that right hander as I should have. I have a bad habit of braking very late and then taking an "open trajectory" and apexing late. this causes much amusement for myself as I can get some very serious lean angles but at the same time I am on the gas very early on and use traction from the rear to catapult myself out of bends.. on this one I opened up too much gas on a cold, slightly moist surface with the right side of the tire cold. Valencia is mainly left handers and the right side of the tire doesn´t warm up too well. Also we were only doing around 5 laps per session and it was just enough to warm the tires on the last lap. I think I was just too eager on the gas for the weather and track condition.

I know better for next time.
 

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Glad you're ok dude, that crash could have been a lot worse, probably lucky (given that you were crashing) that there wasn't much grip otherwise you may have actually ended up highsiding. Not so say it was "easy" but you know. Hopefully doing my first trackday next year.
 

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EvilSteve said:
Glad you're ok dude, that crash could have been a lot worse, probably lucky (given that you were crashing) that there wasn't much grip otherwise you may have actually ended up highsiding. Not so say it was "easy" but you know. Hopefully doing my first trackday next year.
You're gonna love it! I should have borrowed some tire warmers as our sessions were only 5-6 laps each as there were 110 odd Ducatis at our event and the tires only warmed up completely on the 4th lap given the temperature outside so I didn't really enjoy the day as much as I could have from the first lap.

I know for next time!
 

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Hey NuTTs,

You know I have to chime in here. Was that crash on you tube in slow motion? [clap] Speed it up there son.

ELPato
 

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elpato said:
Vale colega, muchisimas gracias...

tu nombre nueva es TORTUGA ;D
Ja ja ja, Tortuga.. muy bien pues sabes que la tortuga gano al liebre, no?

I really need to get a small camera and mount system for the bike.. i'll be racing in a Ducati Twin series next year and want to record the races, shame I couldn't do so this time .

Ciao
 
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