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FAILED!!

Yup, took it to a place down the street down here in Richmond, (not motoeuropa). I never knew that integrated tail light/signals were illegal in VA until after the tail chop so i was hoping all would go well. But funny thing is that's not what failed me. No reflectors and no light for the plate. Dude said he would pass me if I had those two things. It was after that he mentioned the blinkers not being legal. Oh well, a couple bucks for some reflectors and some lightbolts and I'm all good.

I was gonna take it to an average car shop but they didn't have the motorcycle stickers :-\
 

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zip a lil hole in the bottom of the tailite lens so it shines onto the plate and insert a piece of plastic or something to keep debris from getting in there and you should be golden!....I know there are some manufacturers out there who use a clear bottom of the tailite to illuminate the tag!
 

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zooom said:
zip a lil hole in the bottom of the tailite lens so it shines onto the plate and insert a piece of plastic or something to keep debris from getting in there and you should be golden!....I know there are some manufacturers out there who use a clear bottom of the tailite to illuminate the tag!
The tail light cover off a <gulp> buell will fit the Monster housing. And, it comes with a clear window on the bottom to shine on the plate. They're actually manufactured by the same company (Italian).
 

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Sorry to rain on the endless parade of ways to get around inspection problems, but consider the following:

1. The requirements are there for a reason. Okay, illuminating the license plate is not safety-related, but the signals/reflectors are. Have you ever followed a bike with the "integrated" stop/turn system? There's a lot of important info displayed in a small space when slowing and turning. Cars have gone the other way, with separate tail, brake,and turn lights. If we want to be more conspicuous than cars, this is one form of integration we should pass up, IMO. Never mind what's legal -- this is a safety issue.

License-plate illumination is easy with a tail chop if you get the right kit. The one I got is SS and allows the stock license plate light to bolt on. Of course if you just have a couple of angle brackets from the hardware store.... Again IMO, given the money we spend to buy and modify these bikes, spending an extra $30 to do things right is not unreasonable.

I hate the stock reflectors, just like everyone else. Sections 19VAC30-70-330 through 19VAC30-70-420 of the VA administrative code cover the inspection requirements for motorcycles. I didn't see anything in these sections pertaining to reflectors. Anyone wishing to check for themselves can do so here: http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+reg+19VAC30-70-330.

But rather than get into a harrangue about this at inspection time, and in the interest of safety, my solution is shown here: http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/index.php?topic=55107.msg673773#msg673773 Style and safety in one step. I also have (blue, what else) reflective tape on my rim sides. Maybe drivers will see me better at night and thereby avoid t-boning me. One can always hope.

2. Passing inspection is a daily requirement. LEOs can stop you any time for what they believe to be defective equipment or incorrect installation. Was stopped by state trooper around here for visibility of my license plate. I reset the angle for minimum necessary clearance of the tire (by compressing the rear spring to the stop with ratchet straps) and checked it out w/ the trooper next time I saw him. It wasn't vertical, but he said he'd never have stopped me if it had been angled as I now have it.

Not that LEOs always get it right. So you can either carry the regs in your seat storage and argue your way out of a ticket (unless he/she says "Tell it to the judge.") or do a reasonable and safe job on these things in the first place.
 

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I've got black reflective tape on the wheels of my 620. You wouldn't know they were there during daylight. But the attached photo shows what you get with you hit em with some light.

Reflective tape is availible in a lot of colors now and is a pretty easy way to add some visibility. And you can go stealth like me w/ black on black (if you have black wheels) or add some flash with colored tapes.
 

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Sorry to rain on the endless parade of ways to get around inspection problems, but consider the following:
i wasn't trying to get around anything. Just posting my experience. I figured the brake light was enough to light the plate. And also, I never knew there was a reflector requirment or that the blinkers had to be 9 inches apart.
 

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i wasn't trying to get around anything. Just posting my experience. I figured the brake light was enough to light the plate. And also, I never knew there was a reflector requirment or that the blinkers had to be 9 inches apart.
My comments were not directed at you personally. Sorry if it didn't come out that way. Your initial post clearly suggests an interest in doing it right and letting the rest of us know what happened to you and why.

If it were me, prior to the next inspection I'd ask the inspector where the requirement for reflectors comes from -- in a non-aggressive way, of course. Maybe I missed something in the regs, or it's a brand-new requirement, or something else. That would be good for all of us to know.
 

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jwbowen said:
My comments were not directed at you personally. Sorry if it didn't come out that way. Your initial post clearly suggests an interest in doing it right and letting the rest of us know what happened to you and why.

If it were me, prior to the next inspection I'd ask the inspector where the requirement for reflectors comes from -- in a non-aggressive way, of course. Maybe I missed something in the regs, or it's a brand-new requirement, or something else. That would be good for all of us to know.
Ya, I got a lot of questions for them. What pisses me off is that I didn't even get a chance to talk with the inspector. Now I got a failed sticker when at least one of the items could have been fixed on the spot. I can't prove it and I really don't want to dig but I bet he said I needed reflectors because my blinkers were in violation. They said I would have passed if I had the reflectors and plate lights even though the blinkers were an obvious violation that they made a point to make me a aware of.

Not even sure if I want to go back to that shop. If I can find a gas station with motorcycle stickers I'll go there. Or maybe I'll give motoeuropa a call :-\
 
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