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Hi there first time post and new to Ducati. I've been a long time fan of the Monster and decided it's time to get one.

Previously I was interested in the 1200r but can't seem to find them on Ducati website and based on my research the last model was the 2016 1200r before the new shape/face-lift in 2017. However I've looked online for bikes for sale and there are a couple that are 2017 and 2018 but can't really tell from pictures of its the new design of 2017+ or not and if it has the new features of a quick shifter etc. If it isn't I think I might go with the 1200s and add on the extra bits of the 1200r. There's a used 2016 1200r in red which is available for sale and only two 1200s 2019 in Grey and red. Informed by dealer that the 2020 model only the color black was added nothing else.

Would love to hear your thoughts on the above and help me make a decision.

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Yousif
 

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Hi there first time post and new to Ducati. I've been a long time fan of the Monster and decided it's time to get one.

Previously I was interested in the 1200r but can't seem to find them on Ducati website and based on my research the last model was the 2016 1200r before the new shape/face-lift in 2017. However I've looked online for bikes for sale and there are a couple that are 2017 and 2018 but can't really tell from pictures of its the new design of 2017+ or not and if it has the new features of a quick shifter etc. If it isn't I think I might go with the 1200s and add on the extra bits of the 1200r. There's a used 2016 1200r in red which is available for sale and only two 1200s 2019 in Grey and red. Informed by dealer that the 2020 model only the color black was added nothing else.

Would love to hear your thoughts on the above and help me make a decision.

Thanks
Yousif
The ‘17 1200s/1200r has Quick Shift. Ducati quit making the 1200r...2019 was the last year. I have a ‘17 1200s, so I can’t tell you if earlier models have Quick Shift.
 

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Thanks for the info will have a look around for used 2019 1200r and if it has the quick shifter and same new 2017+ design might go that route instead of the 1200s.
 

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The R was made 2016-2019. No quick shifter and it comes with the older generation of electronics (no cornering ABS, etc.) compared to the 2017+ S bikes. The S bikes we re-resigned in 2017, but the R was not. The R is the same 2016-2019.

The 2017+S bikes have really closed the gap the R quite a bit in my opinion and come with a few things that I wish my R did, like a display that you can actually see, slimmer tank, quick shifter and auto blipper, cornering ABS, and IMU based traction control to name a few.

I had a choice when I was looking for my bike and went with the R. No regrets, but it's not a simple choice - the S offer a lot of value for the money compared to the R and I could easily see why someone would choose it over the R.
 

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The R was made 2016-2019. No quick shifter and it comes with the older generation of electronics (no cornering ABS, etc.) compared to the 2017+ S bikes. The S bikes we re-resigned in 2017, but the R was not. The R is the same 2016-2019.

The 2017+S bikes have really closed the gap the R quite a bit in my opinion and come with a few things that I wish my R did, like a display that you can actually see, slimmer tank, quick shifter and auto blipper, cornering ABS, and IMU based traction control to name a few.

I had a choice when I was looking for my bike and went with the R. No regrets, but it's not a simple choice - the S offer a lot of value for the money compared to the R and I could easily see why someone would choose it over the R.
This clears it up to me now in regards to 1200r. I think I might go for the 1200s with the added features and newer design. Thank you for your feedback.
 

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While I agree with what @miskoSV wrote, of which the most important is the QuickShifter which can be added in the after-market.
However, the "R" has a different value proposition which more than justifies the price difference. In addition to more horsepower, the added hardware in pricing order really adds up. For $2200 you get Marchesini Forged Wheels ($3000~$4000), an Ohlins Steering Damper ($700), a mini screen ($400), + 58mm Headers ($???), bigger and better tires, better foot-pegs, a metal tail-light bracket, a larger tank (which I prefer) and a slicker paint job except for the new black which is very nice.
 
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Hi GTSilver,

I'm in the same position as you. Been riding Speed Triples for over 10 years but a long time fan. Test ridden Gen1 and Gen2 S's, and a '16 and '19 R. After much lusting for a 2019 R, I just pulled the trigger on a '19 S. First, as Misko alluded to, the main reason for me is the cornering ABS. Having had it on my S3 it is a game changer. There are too many instances, especially in SoCal (crap roads, crappier drivers), where it is needed. Second, a friend and former Ducati Sales Manager shared that the reliability of the new S engine is much better than the older desmo twin on the R. Other owners will have more on this but it has something to do with the tolerances when they bumped up the compression and used thinner head gaskets. The Gen2 S's have really closed the performance gap to the R. But DarR's points are valid too. You just have to ask yourself what features are most important to you. Good luck with your purchase.
 

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BTW, from 2017 onward, the compression ratio of the "R" and the "S" are identical at 13.0:1
Moreover, Both the "R" and the "S" use the same head gasket 78611001A
The additional power of the "R" can attributable wholly or in part to the larger diameter headers.

Monster 1200 R Specs.png Monster 1200 S Specs.png Monster 1200 R Head Gasket.png Monster 1200 S Head Gasket.png
 
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