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I’ve got a 2017 1200S with an SC Project Carbon Oval. I had a Rapid Bike Evo put on and that’s been a complete cluster. The RB does cause the bike to run better (pulls stronger). However, I’ve been getting a check engine light since the install. Very frustrating and not remedied as of yet. The SC Project exhaust is a home-run, though.
I've read that if the RB's map is adjusted too low in the RPM range it triggers a engine light. This came from Yaman at RB. I'd run this by him for a correction.
 

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I read that too, DarR. My dealer (who is excellent and a personal friend before he became a dealer) said he’s not had that problem since he’s been doing them (don’t know how long that’s been). Turns out that the Rapid Bike’s wiring harness may be bad. We’ll see and I’ll report back.
 

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It made 143hp and 83 torque
Thanks for sharing.
Make sense also as the usual difference from the manufacturers figures and the rear wheel measurement ranges from a 12~15% drop.
Going from Ducati's 152hp / 92ft-lb at the crank equates to 129~133hp / 78~81ft-lb at the rear wheel in stock form.

Those are awesome and reasonable numbers to expect given your SC-Projects Carbon Oval and Rapid Bike.
Would you have the chart printout by any chance?
 

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Rapid Bike and Power Commander do not seem to support the 2017 Monster 1200 yet (according to websites, anyway).

I did contact DynoJet (Power Commander) and their customer support confirmed that they donot support the 2017 Monster yet.

Do I have any good options for after market exhaust / ECU modification other than Termis?

I am not sure what an ECU "flash" does, but no one around here seems to be able to do that either.
 

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Thanks for sharing.
Make sense also as the usual difference from the manufacturers figures and the rear wheel measurement ranges from a 12~15% drop.
Going from Ducati's 152hp / 92ft-lb at the crank equates to 129~133hp / 78~81ft-lb at the rear wheel in stock form.

Those are awesome and reasonable numbers to expect given your SC-Projects Carbon Oval and Rapid Bike.
Would you have the chart printout by any chance?
I posted the dyno chart in my other thread about the SC-Projects Exhaust
 

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I posted the dyno chart in my other thread about the SC-Projects Exhaust
About your chart: http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/3152538-post25.html
I've seen it but the text is un-readable. Could you provide a bit more details of what is compared in both the blue and red line?
For example: was the blue line un-tunned with stock exhaust, un-tuned with slip-on or any other modifications such as air filter etc?
 

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About your chart: http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/3152538-post25.html
I've seen it but the text is un-readable. Could you provide a bit more details of what is compared in both the blue and red line?
For example: was the blue line un-tunned with stock exhaust, un-tuned with slip-on or any other modifications such as air filter etc?
Sure sorry I could not figure out how to get the chart more readable. The blue line is SC slip on with the Rapid bike stock tune that it comes with, it made 137.16 hp and 77.02 torque with 14.1 Af .The red line is with a custom individual cyclinder tune it made 143.15 hp and 83.34 torque with a 13.0 Af. That is with stock air filter and Heal Tech exhaust servo eliminator.I read a few posts on the stock filter doing a better job then after market. I think it was one of your posts. I will be riding the bike this weekend let you know how it performs
 

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Rapid Bike and Power Commander do not seem to support the 2017 Monster 1200 yet (according to websites, anyway).
Do I have any good options for after market exhaust / ECU modification other than Termis?
I am not sure what an ECU "flash" does, but no one around here seems to be able to do that either.
Sure you do. Rapidbike supports a Monster 1200 regardless of year. Rexxer will also flash your ECU.
Stay tuned as I'm getting mine flashed within a few weeks and will report.
Many after-market slip-on exhausts are available also.
http://www.sc-project.com/ducati_monster_1200_s_2017_e.htm
Personally, this looks a million times better than a set of Termis even if I have to pay more for it , which i don't as its cheaper than a Termi.
 

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Cool, thanks. Keep me posted. I was going to go with the SC Project until I received the following email from Dynojet regarding the Power Commander for the 2017 Monster....


No. Dynojet does not list or support any products for this bike model.

Let me know if you have any further questions.

Regards,

Chris Kelly
Dynojet Research Inc.
2191 Mendenhall Dr. Suite 105
North Las Vegas, NV 89081
1-800-992-4993

 

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BTW, the carbon oval from SC-Project pictured above does not require a fuel controller.
I've been running with a similar one for over a year. Notwithstanding, the bike would run much better with an RB unit or a flash.
That's my next mod in a couple of weeks.
 

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Sure you do. Rapidbike supports a Monster 1200 regardless of year. Rexxer will also flash your ECU.
Stay tuned as I'm getting mine flashed within a few weeks and will report.
Many after-market slip-on exhausts are available also.
http://www.sc-project.com/ducati_monster_1200_s_2017_e.htm
Personally, this looks a million times better than a set of Termis even if I have to pay more for it , which i don't as its cheaper than a Termi.
Hey, Den; let's not get carried away here! After all, the Termis look and sound awesome! Especially since that's what I have on MY bike!:devil

Of course, mine isn't a fancy smansy R model...:wink
 

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Hey, Den; let's not get carried away here! After all, the Termis look and sound awesome! Especially since that's what I have on MY bike!:devil



Of course, mine isn't a fancy smansy R model...:wink


I went a different route on my R than I did on my S but the full termis on my S were awesome. They sounded and looked great.


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Hey, Den; let's not get carried away here! After all, the Termis look and sound awesome! Especially since that's what I have on MY bike!:devil

Of course, mine isn't a fancy smansy R model...:wink
HaHa We the privileged ones? LOL
Seriously though, should be finally riding in a couple of weeks. Finally.
 

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I got the bike back have not been able to ride it yet due to weather. It sounds awesome and the tuner said it runs great. I will try to post Dyno sheet later not sure how to do it waiting for some help. I had him do a custom tune individual cylinders before the custom tune it made 137hp and 77 torque that was the rapid bike out of the box. Then with the tune it made 143hp and 83 torque. When I get to ride it I will post back how it performs on the street.
@tsm427 Would you know which basemap you used on the RB where it made 137hp and 77 torque?
Reason for asking is to see how that compares to your SC-P without an RB should you have used the stock M1200 basemap.
Your RB unit did not yet have a chance to adapt as it needs a few hundred miles of various condition riding.

BTW guys, @tsm427 and I have the same bike "M1200R" and silencer "SC-Project Carbon Conic".
I'm expecting to receive my ECU from Rexxer following a flash shortly.
It was either the Rapidbike or a flash.
I chose the flash for this bike as I don't intend on changing anything else going forward.
FYI, I also have a Rapidbike installed on my Panigale as I intend to modify that bike further where the RB can adapt.

Should you guys be wondering, the flash was programed for:

-SC-Project
-OEM air filter
-Closed loop (O2) disabled
-Exhaust valve disabled
-DB baffles removed

I will post back to report.
 

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Hey Dar R glad to see you sent your Ecu out. I’m interested to see how it performs keep us updated.I don’t know which base map my tuner used I will see if I can get that info. I did have a problem with the engine light and it took three times for him updating firmware to get it to stay off. The bike is working awesome, power is smooth right to redline no issues I’m very happpy with it. I have put about 2000 miles on it since we got the engine light out. Looking forward to here how you make out with Rexxer. Ride safe.
 

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Hey Dar R glad to see you sent your Ecu out. I’m interested to see how it performs keep us updated.I don’t know which base map my tuner used I will see if I can get that info. I did have a problem with the engine light and it took three times for him updating firmware to get it to stay off. The bike is working awesome, power is smooth right to redline no issues I’m very happpy with it. I have put about 2000 miles on it since we got the engine light out. Looking forward to here how you make out with Rexxer. Ride safe.
Yes, the Rapidbike is an awesome unit. I had some reservations at first but it did smooth the lean Mid-RPM surging of my Panigale's Race Mode.
Your engine light was probably "on" because the Rapidbike's Auto Adaptivity setting was initially set to start too low.
Here's a photo of my Rapidbike software connected to the Panigale. You will note that it states "stock" on the bottom area. Your's may state something else.
 

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I fitted my base 1200 with Remus exhaust and gave it Rexxer for remapping. I took some serious amount of time and few attempts to get it about right (it is not perfect!).
Result? Never was slow, but now it is a real beast. It pumps out somehere around 154 ps (20 more then stock), but what is impresive is the torque, a different bike allover the rev range (no dip in mid revs, monsterous power i higher revs).
 

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I fitted my base 1200 with Remus exhaust and gave it Rexxer for remapping.
I took some serious amount of time and few attempts to get it about right (it is not perfect!).
It pumps out somehere around 154 ps (20 more then stock)
Your conclusion is fantastic.
However, 1) could you please explain what you meant about the attempts to get it right...?
2) How did you measure the increase in hp (pferdestärke) ?
 
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