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So for a while my bike wouldn't turn over instantly. I had to fart with the connector on the line that goes down to the kickstand. I'm assuming this is the kickstand switch that everyone hates and instantly takes off their bike. I didn't, DOH.

Anyhoo, usually farting around with it gets my bike to turn over as I hold the starter switch down.

Tonight, I was doing the same thing and I couldn't get it to work. But at one point I did hear the bike start to turn over and die, perhaps 2 cycles of the engine. I was thinking "well I guess the connection was cool for a second then farted out again.." and I kept trying and trying.

THEN, while messing with the connector, I heard the *click**click**click**click**click**click**click* which would tell me the battery is dead. And perhaps that "almost start" I had wasn't connector related at all, but rather the last breath of my battery.

My headlight is on, seemingly at full strENF, and so are my dash lights?

Anyone know how I can tell what is ACTUALLY going on with my bike.....I"m thinking it's the battery, but when I started it this morning it showed no signs of being that close to death.
 

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fleedatzmonster said:
So for a while my bike wouldn't turn over instantly. I had to fart with the connector on the line that goes down to the kickstand. I'm assuming this is the kickstand switch that everyone hates and instantly takes off their bike. I didn't, DOH.

Anyhoo, usually farting around with it gets my bike to turn over as I hold the starter switch down.

Tonight, I was doing the same thing and I couldn't get it to work. But at one point I did hear the bike start to turn over and die, perhaps 2 cycles of the engine. I was thinking "well I guess the connection was cool for a second then farted out again.." and I kept trying and trying.

THEN, while messing with the connector, I heard the *click**click**click**click**click**click**click* which would tell me the battery is dead. And perhaps that "almost start" I had wasn't connector related at all, but rather the last breath of my battery.

My headlight is on, seemingly at full strENF, and so are my dash lights?

Anyone know how I can tell what is ACTUALLY going on with my bike.....I"m thinking it's the battery, but when I started it this morning it showed no signs of being that close to death.
Take a little piece of wire and jump it across the terminals of the sidestand connector, eliminate that from the equation.
 

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so that terminal has 3 wires on the female, and 2 on the male. Which ones to jump?
 

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Your battery is either weak or you have a dirty connection. You may have a sidestand switch issue also. For the sidestand I would suggest jumping at the safety relay so you eliminate both for now, grey and red/blue wires.
 

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I must be an idiot....where would I do this jumping, can someone describe in a bit more detail?

Is it just a matter of taking a paperclip, and jumping the wires "around"the connector that connects the kickstand to the harness. OR am I supposed to jump something on the actual sidestand.??
 

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What I was suggesting is you jump at the relay so you eliminate the whole sidestand circuit. Remove your seat. You will see three plastic boxes. One will be the main relay which will probably say Siemens, be yellow, and smaller than the rest. One will be the signal flasher, which will click when you turn the blinker on. The other will be the safety relay. Pull the relay out and jump with a wire from the terminal with the grey wire to the terminal with the red/blue wire. Remember, it will now start with the sidestand down in gear. Now you can go about finding the battery problem. Then, if you do have a sidestand issue we can help you with that.

Better than that, start off with making sure your battery is good first. Fully charge it and get it load tested.
 

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howie said:
What I was suggesting is you jump at the relay so you eliminate the whole sidestand circuit. Remove your seat. You will see three plastic boxes. One will be the main relay which will probably say Siemens, be yellow, and smaller than the rest. One will be the signal flasher, which will click when you turn the blinker on. The other will be the safety relay. Pull the relay out and jump with a wire from the terminal with the grey wire to the terminal with the red/blue wire. Remember, it will now start with the sidestand down in gear. Now you can go about finding the battery problem. Then, if you do have a sidestand issue we can help you with that.

Better than that, start off with making sure your battery is good first. Fully charge it and get it load tested.
Ok, puuuurfect instructions, I'll get it sorted THANKS
 

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howie said:
What I was suggesting is you jump at the relay so you eliminate the whole sidestand circuit. Remove your seat. You will see three plastic boxes. One will be the main relay which will probably say Siemens, be yellow, and smaller than the rest. One will be the signal flasher, which will click when you turn the blinker on. The other will be the safety relay. Pull the relay out and jump with a wire from the terminal with the grey wire to the terminal with the red/blue wire. Remember, it will now start with the sidestand down in gear. Now you can go about finding the battery problem. Then, if you do have a sidestand issue we can help you with that.

Better than that, start off with making sure your battery is good first. Fully charge it and get it load tested.
well, actually, the main ignition relay is yellow and it's the 2nd biggest one under the seat (says BITRON on it), the signal flasher is the largest relay (probably says GUILERA or something like that on it), and the one you're looking for is the smaller black one that says siemens on it

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Damn, I keep getting it mixed up which one says Siemons, second time hiero caught it. Time to take a photo and lable it.
 
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