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Just yesterday I was making a left turn onto a freeway on-ramp, and some Marine fool ran his 5 second old red light and crashed into me.
i would have been dead
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dont generalize Marines as all being bad drivers. I know one or two that are ok behind the wheel 
Look at it this way, its not just military area you have to be careful around. I was stationed at Pendelton for a few months ( thank God it wasnt any longer) there were plenty of bad drivers out there in Oceanside. Bad drivers are everywhere.
Also if you were on the Duc, odds are you wouldnt have been in the same place at the same time. Or you would have been more alert- I know I am when I am on the bike.
Glad you made it through the accident in one piece. It sucks that you were in one to begin with.
Look at it this way, its not just military area you have to be careful around. I was stationed at Pendelton for a few months ( thank God it wasnt any longer) there were plenty of bad drivers out there in Oceanside. Bad drivers are everywhere.
Also if you were on the Duc, odds are you wouldnt have been in the same place at the same time. Or you would have been more alert- I know I am when I am on the bike.
Glad you made it through the accident in one piece. It sucks that you were in one to begin with.
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·Sorry to hear of this news.
Glad you are OK.
Ditto, you would have been more alert on Duc!
Glad you are OK.
Ditto, you would have been more alert on Duc!
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You can look both ways when you cross an intersection, but sometimes people run lights in such a manner that it's tough to watch out for them. A friend of mine got hit on his CBR929RR last fall while making a left turn on a green turn arrow and he was second in line to go through that intersection. It's hard to anticipate red light runners after traffic has already started flowing. The streets were not at right angles there, so the car that hit him was coming from more than 90 degrees to the right. He ended up out of work for about two months while he healed up and I'm still not sure if the insurance has settled everything yet.
It's a good idea to be very paranoid about other drivers. Sometimes they can do incredibly stupid things.
It's a good idea to be very paranoid about other drivers. Sometimes they can do incredibly stupid things.
I absolutely agree that you should be paranoid of other drivers while on your bike. Some moron bumped my back tire almost a month ago getting on to the Bay Bridge here in San Francisco. The guy knocked me down and never even stopped, I guess at 4am you should be even more paranoid...
-Jordan
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·Glad you (and your Duke) made it through seemingly OK. On the bright(er) side, just think of it as a chance to spend a little less on gas...
Is Geico not covering a rental while your car is in the shop? I think it's SOP for the at-fault ins. co. to do so, but I could be wrong...
Holy Hell Jordan! You were moving when this happened?
I've been bumped when stopped waiting for a railroad crossing, but not hard enough to knock me down.
A guy at work was "bumped" by a DPW truck while on his brand spanking new VTX and got messed up pretty bad. The bike too.
Getting rear ended, now that's scary!
You were moving when this happened?I've been bumped when stopped waiting for a railroad crossing, but not hard enough to knock me down.
A guy at work was "bumped" by a DPW truck while on his brand spanking new VTX and got messed up pretty bad. The bike too.
Getting rear ended, now that's scary!
Glad you are ok. ;D Please don't generalize the military though. I am a veteran. When I got my sticker to ride my bike on base, I was required to take the MSF course. You can bet that if that accident occurred on base, that Marine would be taking a urinalysis test. If he was caught with a DUI, his career would be over. Military members have double jeopardy, so they have much more to lose if they have accidents. That being said, it doesn't make them better drivers. Stupid is as stupid does. I was in the Air Force, BTW.
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·Sorry to hear about your misfortune, but now you have an excuse to ride everyday ;D.
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:Re: i would have been dead
Rule I always live by............
EVERY CAGE DRIVER IS OUT TO KILL YOU
Glad you made it through OK.
I too know a few Marines, PLEASE do not generalise. :
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Re: i would have been deadRule I always live by............
EVERY CAGE DRIVER IS OUT TO KILL YOU
Glad you made it through OK.
I too know a few Marines, PLEASE do not generalise. :
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Ok genius-
I am a Navy officer and you really hit a nerve with the "idiot Marine" comment. That Marine is ready to put his life on the line for your freedom, if he hasn't already. I am sorry about your accident and am glad that you were not seriously injured. Your accident has nothing to do with your proximity to a military installation. Ride safe and watch who you slam in the future.
I am a Navy officer and you really hit a nerve with the "idiot Marine" comment. That Marine is ready to put his life on the line for your freedom, if he hasn't already. I am sorry about your accident and am glad that you were not seriously injured. Your accident has nothing to do with your proximity to a military installation. Ride safe and watch who you slam in the future.
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well in reference to the proximity of military bases, my honda cage was totaled in albuquerque by an airforce dude (Kirtland AFB), and my mom was rear-ended by a drunk marine while pregnant with my brother. my best friends El Camino was also keyed with the saying "semper fi" after some local division came back from afghanistan. 4 out of 450,000 (or however many serve) isnt worth mentioning, but if its the only experience you have, then its all you have to base things on.
I also know what a marine does for my freedom. I am not anti-military. In fact after I finish college I am going to OCS for the air force. and i am not anti-marine. my cousin was one for six years, and in fact he was denied being in LAPD because he had 12 speeding tickets. Lots of people get speeding tickets, but you would be blind if you thought army, marine, air force, or navy people dont take higher risks due to their training (if i am taught to kill someone like someone in the army, i sure as heck wouldnt blink at going a little faster for a "thrill").
There are stupid people everywhere, but when you live 2 miles from a marine corp base, all you come in contact with are marines.
About the rental, geico says i have to pay out of pocket for 2 months (their turnaround time or something), which I cant do right now thanks to having to buy another car with what Progressive calls a "replacement value." When I win the lottery i am buying an island like Marlon Brando and declaring it insurance free.
I also know what a marine does for my freedom. I am not anti-military. In fact after I finish college I am going to OCS for the air force. and i am not anti-marine. my cousin was one for six years, and in fact he was denied being in LAPD because he had 12 speeding tickets. Lots of people get speeding tickets, but you would be blind if you thought army, marine, air force, or navy people dont take higher risks due to their training (if i am taught to kill someone like someone in the army, i sure as heck wouldnt blink at going a little faster for a "thrill").
There are stupid people everywhere, but when you live 2 miles from a marine corp base, all you come in contact with are marines.
About the rental, geico says i have to pay out of pocket for 2 months (their turnaround time or something), which I cant do right now thanks to having to buy another car with what Progressive calls a "replacement value." When I win the lottery i am buying an island like Marlon Brando and declaring it insurance free.
I guess the military man is above reproach because he is either "worried about being killed in Iraq" or " ready to lay down his life", sorry G.I. it doesn't wash. Everyone has worries and problems, if you can't handle driving because of it I'd hate to see you in combat. Not every G.I. is a great example of "the few and the proud" , but on the other hand, don't blame the whole military because of the mistake of one. Hopefully, not an "Army of one". Stupidest slogan I have ever heard. Can they say "oxymoron"?
Anchors aweigh.
Anchors aweigh.
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·Hey GEENIUS,
The fact that the offending driver with his head up his ass was a Jarhead is immaterial.
The training a Marine either passes or gets washed out,is exactly the opposite of what MORON Civillians think it is.
Aggression is tempered as a tool to be used at the proper moment.
It's called discipline,and the Marine Grunt is Famous for it the world Over.
The Corp's does NOT train berserkers to take wild chances.
They are trained to controll the battlefield using their heads,and to take advantage of beserkers by KILLING them.
Problem is that Mother Green does NOT teach driving skills or tactics.That is left up to the pathetic and slimy CIVILLIAN jerkoffs at the state level,and most often through the touchy feely educational system.
Given that Mother Green took over Drivers Ed in all states,there would be far fewer traffic accidents and fewer idiots on the road thanks to the washout rate.
In the end,the Jarhead was no doubt running late for Morning formation and pushing his luck.
The cost of being late for Formation being the motivator.
That said,Jarheads are Human.They are NOT infallable.
They just happen to be held to higher standards because of the deserved reputation.
Once you get your commision,make sure you latch onto a good senior NCO and LISTEN!
They will keep your bar from tarnishing.
Semper FI!
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The fact that the offending driver with his head up his ass was a Jarhead is immaterial.
The training a Marine either passes or gets washed out,is exactly the opposite of what MORON Civillians think it is.
Aggression is tempered as a tool to be used at the proper moment.
It's called discipline,and the Marine Grunt is Famous for it the world Over.
The Corp's does NOT train berserkers to take wild chances.
They are trained to controll the battlefield using their heads,and to take advantage of beserkers by KILLING them.
Problem is that Mother Green does NOT teach driving skills or tactics.That is left up to the pathetic and slimy CIVILLIAN jerkoffs at the state level,and most often through the touchy feely educational system.
Given that Mother Green took over Drivers Ed in all states,there would be far fewer traffic accidents and fewer idiots on the road thanks to the washout rate.
In the end,the Jarhead was no doubt running late for Morning formation and pushing his luck.
The cost of being late for Formation being the motivator.
That said,Jarheads are Human.They are NOT infallable.
They just happen to be held to higher standards because of the deserved reputation.
Once you get your commision,make sure you latch onto a good senior NCO and LISTEN!
They will keep your bar from tarnishing.
Semper FI!
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