[kmcormick9]

I didnt want to pay $40 bucks for a sidestand bypass so I did some experimenting and made one myself for free.
On my 02 M620 (yours may be different) the kickstand switch is nothing more than a SPST switch that is open when the stand is down and closed when the stand is up. Simple enough. If you follow the wire going from the stand up into the frame, you will come across a plug where the wire simply links with another wire. (its almost like Ducati knew everyone would be bypassing this and added this to make it easier) Unplug this plug and take a look at the upper half of it. You will notice that there are 2 wires running into it and 2 terminals in it. There are some dummy terminals there too, but we are only worried about the real ones right now. Basically what you do is short these 2 terminals. I used a thin gauge paper clip stolen from my office. (you could use a small gauge wire 22-24AWG, but I wanted to keep it free) Now you have a paperclip keeping your bike running, so I would only recommend using this to warm up your bike unless you secure it somehow (electrical tape maybe?).

 

[MagnusVer]

Good job, MacGyver, but wouldn't you rather have something a little more permanent? Paper clips and electrical tape?

 

[Guest]

if you want a permanent solution, cut the connector off, strip back the insulation, and solder the wires together.

one thing to recognize here is that the bike WILL try to start while in gear if you go this route because it assumes the stand is up. so if your bike's on the stand, and IN GEAR, and you crank the starter over without pulling the clutch, down goes the bike. this is easily avoidable if you make it a habit of holding the clutch when cranking over the bike, but dumber things have been done!

 

[Guest]

Yeah, and here's another thing to be careful with.

DON'T ALWAYS TRUST THE NEUTRAL LIGHT!!!

Luckily, my bike still has the stock sidestand switch.

 

[MagnusVer]

that's why the evoluzione harness is worth the $40... that particular scenario couldn't happen.

 

[Guest]

How does that harness prevent the scenario? Does it somehow sense neutral or the clutch being pulled in?
Thanks!

 

[MagnusVer]

With the harness, the bike won't run if it's in gear with thesidestand down. This has paid dividends many times for me... I warm up the bike on the sidestand in neutral, get on, put on my helmet, gloves, etc, adjust the mirrors, pop it into first and it shuts off because I forgot to raise the sidestand. Very valuable safety feature....

 

[Guest]

magnus,
remember that the sidestand bypass harnesses rely on the bike's stock neutral-indicator (wire running out of the back of the engine case) to determine if the bike's in gear or not. if that indicator is shot, as in the previous example, your harness will not know that the bike's been put into gear, and as a result, will not kill the engine if the stand's down.
so rule of thumb... always check your sidestand before taking off at the begining of a ride and always hold the clutch in when starting (and release slowly!).

 

[MagnusVer]

Oh, I didn't realize the indicator was shot.

I also noticed that in some cases the bike can be in neutral even when the light is off... at least on my bike. If I click into neutral but push just a little too hard, it's enough to turn the neutral indicator light off, but not enough to actually put it in gear. Or is that just me?

 

[Guest]

My indicator isn't shot.

 

[Guest]

in case anyone was not sure
starting the bike on the sidestand and have it lurch forward is probably the most embarrassing thing you can do. The bruised pride alone is worth the forty ;D

 

[iamic]

... I usually just hook this up and eat breakfast while it warms up then unhook it and put the plugs back together.

Wait a sec here - just how long do you let your bike idle for? I don't think it's really necessary to sit through an entire meal while your duc sputters away. I just start mine up, back it out of the garage, gear up and go.

 

[Guest]

Don't know about your 2k2 750 but mine gets grumpy until the oil gets a bit warmed up and slung around. I idle it about 5 minutes or so max. I definatly do not wait for that silly LO temp indicator to register a number.

As for the Evoluzone wire, i've got it. Its worth every penny so far. Doesn't disable anything that shouldn't be disabled: ie putting the bike in gear with the sidesand down, or starting it in gear. Now this all does rely on that pesky neutral indicator to work properly.

Anyone find it ironic that Ducati started out as a electronics company? Given the quality of their electrical parts I can see why they make motorcycles. ;D

 

[bnewbold]

How does that harness prevent the scenario? Does it somehow sense neutral or the clutch being pulled in?
Thanks!

Yep it sure does.. the harness connects to the neutral trans switch (back of engine) as well as the sidestand.

Neutral -> Starts all the time
Stand down, in gear -> Doesn't start
Stand up, in gear -> Starts (better have the clutch pulled :wink )

The harness is worth the $ as it has the right connectors and ya just plug it in between the normal connections.