Is that a cirrusblau E24?!?!?
Love it! [thumbsup]
MTX??
Love it! [thumbsup]
MTX??
first ride on my M695
I took my new 695 for the first ride today. My only point of reference is the 200cc dualsport I used at the MSF course, but WOW what a package this monster is! The sound when rolling on the throttle is absolutely intoxicating. I think this machine will serve me well. It seems to have PLENTY of grunt to keep a novice like me happy. Beautiful fall day and beatiful first ride.
A few comments/questions:
- Failed to start the first 4-5 times, until I moved the fast idle lever on before hitting the start button (sales guy told me to only use it AFTER starting).
- Seems to be a bit of missfire at lowish rpms. Probably the "lean" issue that I've read about here?
- Lots of melted assembly grease and goo to wipe off afterwards. What's the deal with the little rubber discs between the motor cooling fins? They weep a brown oily substance that stains the fins. Any way to deal with the stains? The discs need to be there, right?
- Noticed some scuff marks on the (glossy black) tank from my leather jacket. Definitely need some protection at that spot.
Still can't wipe the grin off of my face....
BK
A few comments/questions:
- Failed to start the first 4-5 times, until I moved the fast idle lever on before hitting the start button (sales guy told me to only use it AFTER starting).
- Seems to be a bit of missfire at lowish rpms. Probably the "lean" issue that I've read about here?
- Lots of melted assembly grease and goo to wipe off afterwards. What's the deal with the little rubber discs between the motor cooling fins? They weep a brown oily substance that stains the fins. Any way to deal with the stains? The discs need to be there, right?
- Noticed some scuff marks on the (glossy black) tank from my leather jacket. Definitely need some protection at that spot.
Still can't wipe the grin off of my face....
BK
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It will get worse, I'll tell you. Mine is a mess and I haven't found any normal cleaners which will remove it. I'm not trying acetone since I'm sure there's something better out there which won't do any damage. Mine at least seems to have stabilized and isn't any worse now. But, it's not very nice at all. Of course, I do ride a lot and the engine sees a lot of road debris. Most of that comes off, though, with my weekly wash. I wonder if anyone out there has worked out a safe way to get this stuff off?BK_856er said:The rubber pucks don't seem to be melting, but apparently some adhesive OR some coating to aid installation does degrade when heated. Maybe someone invented a new trick on the assembly line, or they made a substitution. Or maybe the 695 just runs hotter than other monsters (>300F yesterday) due to the lean mixture and lack of an oil cooler. I'll be sure to point it out to the dealer, but should I expect them to "fix" this type of cosmetic issue? I think I can live with it unless it gets worse.
BK
Nice bike, enjoy it [thumbsup]
Lifes_an_ocean - Well, I tried 3M Adhesive Remover and it did not do a thing, so I don't hold out much hope for removal by solvent. The 3M stuff usually works on everything. I think I also have a can of 3M tar remover, so I'll try that as well. I did notice that the brown residues were softer just after a ride, so maybe the key is to try at elevated temperature before it sets up. Some or all of the motor is painted so a certain amount of caution is definitely required. I'm not a paint guy, but I am a chemist so I have access to all kinds of solvents to try.
Pip - Yes, that's an E24 in Cosmos Blau, with mods - sweet ride set up for the twisties!
BK
Pip - Yes, that's an E24 in Cosmos Blau, with mods - sweet ride set up for the twisties!
BK
>300 degrees?!?!?
i think heat is the culprit and since oil starts to break down at around 280ish I think you ought to change your oil. The highest I have been was 284-- but it was running no less than 265 durring this period. since it's been broken in and had a few oil changes its running between 210 and 250, and I'm not getting any new ooze.
I think your oil is shot though. not sure how close you are to 600 mi but it might be a good idea to go in a tad early
i think heat is the culprit and since oil starts to break down at around 280ish I think you ought to change your oil. The highest I have been was 284-- but it was running no less than 265 durring this period. since it's been broken in and had a few oil changes its running between 210 and 250, and I'm not getting any new ooze.
I think your oil is shot though. not sure how close you are to 600 mi but it might be a good idea to go in a tad early
Same here. I was typically seeing as high as 265 but that was it. Now around 1k miles Im seeing a max of 250 normally around 215. However, the weather is getting colder so that might have something to do with it.nllm_oo_mlln said:>300 degrees?!?!?
i think heat is the culprit and since oil starts to break down at around 280ish I think you ought to change your oil. The highest I have been was 284-- but it was running no less than 265 durring this period. since it's been broken in and had a few oil changes its running between 210 and 250, and I'm not getting any new ooze.
I think your oil is shot though. not sure how close you are to 600 mi but it might be a good idea to go in a tad early
these bikes run hot at 4000 miles when im in manhattan ona 70 plus day in traffic, bike easily gets up to 310
Went to 335 in Daytona at Biketoberfest in traffic.
OK - good to know high temps on the M695 are not out of the norm. I'm hoping that my numbers come down after I get a few miles on her.
I was checking out the bike today and I got to wondering why the lower exhaust pipe is severely tarnished for a good 12 inches, whereas the upper exhaust pipe has retained its orginial finish along its entire length. Only 50 miles on the odo. Lean mixture and excessive EGT temps in just one cylinder perhaps? Why else would only one pipe get discolored so quickly??
I have a portable wide-band O2 sensor and a digital thermocouple. I think I'm going to collect some data on this issue.
BK
I was checking out the bike today and I got to wondering why the lower exhaust pipe is severely tarnished for a good 12 inches, whereas the upper exhaust pipe has retained its orginial finish along its entire length. Only 50 miles on the odo. Lean mixture and excessive EGT temps in just one cylinder perhaps? Why else would only one pipe get discolored so quickly??
I have a portable wide-band O2 sensor and a digital thermocouple. I think I'm going to collect some data on this issue.
BK
Today I hit 305 after getting off of the highway, in some traffic. once i got moving it settled down to 280. but usually runs around 260ish.
Although so-called high temps aren't 'out of the norm' as you say (display will read HI when its too hot), Ducati does offer an oil cooler for the bike. You might consider that as your first mod, if so inclined.BK_856er said:OK - good to know high temps on the M695 are not out of the norm. I'm hoping that my numbers come down after I get a few miles on her.
I was checking out the bike today and I got to wondering why the lower exhaust pipe is severely tarnished for a good 12 inches, whereas the upper exhaust pipe has retained its orginial finish along its entire length. Only 50 miles on the odo. Lean mixture and excessive EGT temps in just one cylinder perhaps? Why else would only one pipe get discolored so quickly??
I have a portable wide-band O2 sensor and a digital thermocouple. I think I'm going to collect some data on this issue.
BK
WRT the tarnished exhaust - post a few pics, it's hard to tell what you're saying. Sounds like something was smeared on the bottom of the can and baked on a bit (I'm back on my 'crappy dealer prep - get him to fix it' horse, again).
BK_856er said:OK - good to know high temps on the M695 are not out of the norm. I'm hoping that my numbers come down after I get a few miles on her.
I was checking out the bike today and I got to wondering why the lower exhaust pipe is severely tarnished for a good 12 inches, whereas the upper exhaust pipe has retained its orginial finish along its entire length. Only 50 miles on the odo. Lean mixture and excessive EGT temps in just one cylinder perhaps? Why else would only one pipe get discolored so quickly??
I have a portable wide-band O2 sensor and a digital thermocouple. I think I'm going to collect some data on this issue.
BK
i noticed the same thing when i first got my 620 in 04, i asked the mechanic about it .i worried that one cylinder was running leaner than the other, he said that in fact it was set up that way on purpose. the front (horizontal) cylinder will run ever so slightly hotter (leaner) because it gets all the airflow to cool it. the rear (vertical) cylinder runs cooler(richer) because it is hidden away and is less exposed to air flow. it made sense at the time
the tarnish as you put it most likely is the normal "blueing" of the pipes. it crackes me up how alot of people try valiantly to remove it to clean up chrome pipes on cruisers. the blueing just shows your riding it!
but dam i thought my bike was hot running in hte 230's...the highest ive seen was 275 in traffic in the summer
I'm no expert, but that doesn't sound kosher...he's suggesting that the cylinders are fed fuel/air in 'ever so slightly' different amounts? How does the cooling air flow affect a/f ratio...can someone help?spankee said:he said that in fact it was set up that way on purpose. the front (horizontal) cylinder will run ever so slightly hotter (leaner) because it gets all the airflow to cool it. the rear (vertical) cylinder runs cooler(richer) because it is hidden away and is less exposed to air flow.
This pic shows the "blueing" and "tarnishing" of the lower pipe at 30 miles on the odo. I'm cool with it, but I found it odd that the other pipe is not yet discolored. Got me to wondering if the 300F oil temp and brown goo from the cooling fin pucks could be due to high head temp in just one cylinder.
BK
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I've got 7800 miles on my M695 and I've got a lot of gunk on my heads from cooling puck residue. It's not getting any worse so I assume that means the goo has all oozed out. My headers are quite dark brown and a little rusty too. I'm having them ceramic coated inside/out this winter to a matte black color. This lets them run cooler, protects the pipes from corrosion, and allows air in/out faster which can marginally improve performance too. The front header is more exposed to the road and therefore more debris, dirt, water, etc. So, expect the front header to discolor faster. Coating might be a good option if you're concerned. I am for looks and to cool it down. I'm also installing an oil cooler.BK_856er said:This pic shows the "blueing" and "tarnishing" of the lower pipe at 30 miles on the odo. I'm cool with it, but I found it odd that the other pipe is not yet discolored. Got me to wondering if the 300F oil temp and brown goo from the cooling fin pucks could be due to high head temp in just one cylinder.
BK
Ummm... yeah. No little pucks left on my 1999 M900s, but you can still see ghosts of them from years of grime collecting around them, being cleaned off, collecting again... Their memories live on.
I like the ceramic coating plan - that's a good idea. Is Jet Hot still the method of choice?
FYI, I tooled around for about 10 miles today and when I stopped I had an oil temp of 250F. I grabbed my Fluke thermocouple and measured both pipes near the gasket (close to the head). Both temps were the same, but I'm having a brain fart and I can't recall if it was 300F or 400F. At any rate, both pipes were the same temp so I doubt that one of my cylinders is grossly out of whack. Or maybe it means nothing.
Seems to be running great and I'm having a blast!
Happy Thanksgiving all!!
BK
FYI, I tooled around for about 10 miles today and when I stopped I had an oil temp of 250F. I grabbed my Fluke thermocouple and measured both pipes near the gasket (close to the head). Both temps were the same, but I'm having a brain fart and I can't recall if it was 300F or 400F. At any rate, both pipes were the same temp so I doubt that one of my cylinders is grossly out of whack. Or maybe it means nothing.
Seems to be running great and I'm having a blast!
Happy Thanksgiving all!!
BK
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