Dynoed the 695 today (with new exhaust on)

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HyperM3

Discussion Starter · Nov 9, 2006

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Ok, so I know a lot of you were anticipating the results of this. Im pleasently surprised as well as less than exhilerated. To put it bluntly, I gained nothing and lost nothing. Had the exact same peak hp/tq figures as the first time I had it dynoed. However, I gained hp and tq in the midrange where it really matters. Ill post the graph here which has both runs overlaid.

Once a new DP ECU comes out Ill be able to tweak it further to get the most gains possible. In the meantime, the dealer stated that its running perfectly within the stock parameters and its healthy (not leaning out or too rich).

Ill have it dynoed again once thats finally available.

For the skeptics and naysayers out there, I used the same dyno facility to keep everything equal.

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Bug

· #2 · Nov 9, 2006

Is the DP ECU actually tweakable? I still don't understand if it is something that comes pre-programmed? and what it does that the pciii doesn't do?

C Fresh

· #3 · Nov 9, 2006

I thought I remember seeing the DP exhaust kit specifically for the 695 which included the ECU, pipes, airbox and all that jazz. I don't know if it is tweakable, but for that kind of money I would think it was.

HyperM3

Discussion Starter · #4 · Nov 10, 2006

Bug said:
Is the DP ECU actually tweakable? I still don't understand if it is something that comes pre-programmed? and what it does that the pciii doesn't do?

The DP ECU doesnt have little buttons or knobs or things you can tweak on your own like a PCIII does. The DP ECU can be tweaked through the computer in the shop. This is as much as Ive been told by the dealer.

test-reg

· #5 · Nov 10, 2006

Trim is adjustable, but it is not programmable.

Bug

· #6 · Nov 10, 2006

howie said:
Trim is adjustable, but it is not programmable.

I never here about the gains from a DP ECU, and more about how expensive it is. For that kind of loot you could do the standard stuff like, flywheel, sprockett, pciii, airfilter, and probably for less. I am anti DP ECU till I am more learned.

ducati culture

· #7 · Nov 10, 2006

Can somebody straighten me out here...

Is that all they do on a dyno? Hook your bike up to a machine run the report and your done? Or do they tweak it while its there to get those ohhh and ahhh numbers? But more than anything have the bike running as smooth as possible with the new mods? ???

HyperM3

Discussion Starter · #8 · Nov 10, 2006

ducati culture said:
Can somebody straighten me out here...

Is that all they do on a dyno? Hook your bike up to a machine run the report and your done? Or do they tweak it while its there to get those ohhh and ahhh numbers? But more than anything have the bike running as smooth as possible with the new mods? ???

The place I went to didnt have the capabilities to tweak or check my sw. All they did was 3 runs and then done. Its all I wanted to do considering theres nothing you can tweak on stock SW anyway.

punker248

· #9 · Nov 10, 2006

You're the Jedi, you should know this.

C Fresh

· #10 · Nov 10, 2006

Jedi Knight said:
Why did Ducati not put a programable ECU in the 695, but the 620 had it??

Or is that what that 02 sensor is supposed to do?

Cost cutting to keep it at the same price maybe. That is what i tell myself at least as to why there is a lack of fairing and cowl.

hiero

· #11 · Nov 10, 2006

Jedi Knight said:
Why did Ducati not put a programable ECU in the 695, but the 620 had it??

Or is that what that 02 sensor is supposed to do?

the 620 didn't have a programmable ECU, none of them did, howie already stated this previous:

howie said:
Trim is adjustable, but it is not programmable.

Thumper

· #12 · Nov 10, 2006

There's no such thing as a factory programmable ECU.

But why do you feel you need one. Why fix it if it ain't broken. You said yourself the the Dyno tech said your bike was running perfect. So, what do you expect to achieve. Do you want your bike to run BETTER than perfect? Is that possible? You're bike looks and obviously runs great. I wouldn't mess with a perfect running machine.

As far as getting your bike dyno'd? Yeah, MOST places just give you the print out and tell you how your bike is running. Unless of course you take it to a specialty shop that will/can tweak it for you. But, there's not much to tweak actually. On a carbureted motor, there was much more. On a fuel injected motor, not much can be done without a preprogrammed chip or computer.

HyperM3

Discussion Starter · #13 · Nov 10, 2006

Thumper said:
But why do you feel you need one. Why fix it if it ain't broken. You said yourself the the Dyno tech said your bike was running perfect. So, what do you expect to achieve. Do you want your bike to run BETTER than perfect? Is that possible? You're bike looks and obviously runs great. I wouldn't mess with a perfect running machine.

They said it was running within stock parameters which is not the same as running perfect. If I could tweak it so it runs more lean then that would be perfect right? While Im not upset that its running well within the stock parameters maybe tweaking it could also change where the power comes on, throttle response etc. Dont get me wrong, Im super happy with my bike as it is right now and quite frankly dont think that a chip for $4-500 is worth the extra tweaking.

Thumper

· #14 · Nov 10, 2006

It may be running a little lean as it is now as they sometimes come from the factory that way to help pass emmissions. Do you get any backfiring or surging?

If not, you COULD lean it out a tad. But not to much. Running it a little lean will give you a tad bit more horsepower, but your bike will run hotter as a result. To lean isn't good cause then you start getting surging and backfiring and you'll be running TO hot.

But, for a few extra ponnies that you really wont even be able to feel by the seat of your pants? I'm not sure if it's worth the 4-500 bucks. But, it's your bike.

I think it looks great as is, and also looks like it runs great as is. Why try and improve on perfection?

How about spending that money and getting yourself some machined rear sets or something? That's ALWAYS fun

Tom

HyperM3

Discussion Starter · #15 · Nov 10, 2006

Thumper said:
But, for a few extra ponnies that you really wont even be able to feel by the seat of your pants? I'm not sure if it's worth the 4-500 bucks. But, it's your bike.

Thats exactly what I said in my post.

Thumper

· #16 · Nov 10, 2006

Oh yes. I forgot to mention that I'm very repititious. That I'm very repititious. [laugh] [laugh]

Did I forget to mention that I was very repititious?

That Nice Guy Beck

· #17 · Nov 10, 2006

I LOVE LOVE LOVE THOSE CANS IF I DONT SELL THATS WHAT IM GETTING NEXT SEASON

Thumper

· #18 · Nov 11, 2006

If you don't sell? What's THAT mean? If ?

lennlen

· #19 · Nov 12, 2006

Thumper said:
There's no such thing as a factory programmable ECU.

But why do you feel you need one. Why fix it if it ain't broken. You said yourself the the Dyno tech said your bike was running perfect. So, what do you expect to achieve. Do you want your bike to run BETTER than perfect? Is that possible? You're bike looks and obviously runs great. I wouldn't mess with a perfect running machine.

As far as getting your bike dyno'd? Yeah, MOST places just give you the print out and tell you how your bike is running. Unless of course you take it to a specialty shop that will/can tweak it for you. But, there's not much to tweak actually. On a carbureted motor, there was much more. On a fuel injected motor, not much can be done without a preprogrammed chip or computer.

I think the 2000 - 2001 EFI ECUs were reflashable. I need to get mine tuned

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