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Re: Dyno day/ tech tips/ routine maint. event
What's this guy charge to do a custom map, what are his credentials, has anyone else gotten a custom map from him and what are your thoughts on the results? Also does this guy do mapping that address' each cyclinder individually? I ask because I have a guy lined up to do my custom map , he's a bit pricey BUT he's known in the biz as being one of the best at PCIII custom mapping. If the guy you're trying to line up is as good and cheaper as my guy I'd be tempted to give him a try. Thanks...
What's this guy charge to do a custom map, what are his credentials, has anyone else gotten a custom map from him and what are your thoughts on the results? Also does this guy do mapping that address' each cyclinder individually? I ask because I have a guy lined up to do my custom map , he's a bit pricey BUT he's known in the biz as being one of the best at PCIII custom mapping. If the guy you're trying to line up is as good and cheaper as my guy I'd be tempted to give him a try. Thanks...
Re: Dyno day/ tech tips/ routine maint. event
steveg had his map done by louie, and many of the willow guys swear by him.
just out of curiosity, who is your guy and what are his credentials?
what he said.ducman851 said:
"basic" maps are $200, iirc. louie will do advanced maps for an additional 50%, but he doesn't feel they're worth it.r8pistol said:
steveg had his map done by louie, and many of the willow guys swear by him.
just out of curiosity, who is your guy and what are his credentials?
Re: Dyno day/ tech tips/ routine maint. event
(or i would assume so)
i'm also not totally against changing to a pc3.. so yeah i'd like to talk to him either way.
luca needs 2 maps so doesn't seem like getting to the requisite 3 will be much of a problem.
duhderby said:
(or i would assume so)i'm also not totally against changing to a pc3.. so yeah i'd like to talk to him either way.
luca needs 2 maps so doesn't seem like getting to the requisite 3 will be much of a problem.
Re: Dyno day/ tech tips/ routine maint. event
I'm just asking what the guy's background is in mapping and what can be expected. From what I've been told by the guy I've found, it's not an all day thing at all. He charges $300 for a full custom map that will be individualized for each cyclinder and you're in and out in an hour or so. His name is Mickey Cohen and after asking around all over SoCal his name came up more often than not as the guy to go to. He was also featured in a recent edition of Motorcyclist magazine regarding his services and expertise. Thanks for the feedeback on Louie.ducman851 said:
Re: Dyno day/ tech tips/ routine maint. event
In and out in an hour for a custom advanced map sounds suspicious to me; Louie worked on my bike for a good 45 minutes to nail down a standard map alone. I'm happy with the results; bike makes good power, and runs smoothly. I'm pretty sure this map is better (by feel) than the one I got a couple of years ago from dyno dudes, but I can't be sure because between the two maps lots of engine work was done; so it makes no sense to compare the curves.
In and out in an hour for a custom advanced map sounds suspicious to me; Louie worked on my bike for a good 45 minutes to nail down a standard map alone. I'm happy with the results; bike makes good power, and runs smoothly. I'm pretty sure this map is better (by feel) than the one I got a couple of years ago from dyno dudes, but I can't be sure because between the two maps lots of engine work was done; so it makes no sense to compare the curves.
Re: Dyno day/ tech tips/ routine maint. event
I'm just telling you what the guy said. I asked if I'd need to drop the bike off the night before but he said no, that he could get me in and out same day. I assumed that meant a couple hours. If it's longer so be it, whatver it takes to get the best for my bike. The guy comes highly recommended that's for sure and he was really cool over the phone explaining all that can be expected for your $300...
I'm just telling you what the guy said. I asked if I'd need to drop the bike off the night before but he said no, that he could get me in and out same day. I assumed that meant a couple hours. If it's longer so be it, whatver it takes to get the best for my bike. The guy comes highly recommended that's for sure and he was really cool over the phone explaining all that can be expected for your $300...
Re: Dyno day/ tech tips/ routine maint. event
Never heard of him. Hmmm.
Well since no one asked heres my 2c. (Stand back Derby)
I took my bike 2500 miles to Minnesota, because I couldnt find anyone here in So Cal that:
A: could properly tune a Duc.
B: could properly tune the FIM U59.
C: that I could trust.
Im not sure whether its good or bad but Ive seen and been involved with what is involved with actually doing a proper tuning session.
Ill use my bike for example.
First thing was to clean and check the injectors on a RAM Injector bench.
Once the flow was confirmed to be nearly identical then we moved onto the next step. Setup
The cams were then set to Factory spec
The throttle body synch was checked and adjusted
The TPS setting was checked
That was just the first two hours.
Next came building a base map.
Then came the actual dyno work
Running the bike at each throttle position and rpm point
Analyze the data and make changes to those that needed a change
Repeat dyno process
Repeat analyzing data untill results are correct.
That was the rest of the afternoon.
The end all is if you dont check your work you can assume its perfect, right? By that I mean the basic settings. If they are not right then why bother trying to compensate for misadjustments?
r8pistol said:
Never heard of him. Hmmm.
Well since no one asked heres my 2c. (Stand back Derby)
I took my bike 2500 miles to Minnesota, because I couldnt find anyone here in So Cal that:
A: could properly tune a Duc.
B: could properly tune the FIM U59.
C: that I could trust.
Im not sure whether its good or bad but Ive seen and been involved with what is involved with actually doing a proper tuning session.
Ill use my bike for example.
First thing was to clean and check the injectors on a RAM Injector bench.
Once the flow was confirmed to be nearly identical then we moved onto the next step. Setup
The cams were then set to Factory spec
The throttle body synch was checked and adjusted
The TPS setting was checked
That was just the first two hours.
Next came building a base map.
Then came the actual dyno work
Running the bike at each throttle position and rpm point
Analyze the data and make changes to those that needed a change
Repeat dyno process
Repeat analyzing data untill results are correct.
That was the rest of the afternoon.
The end all is if you dont check your work you can assume its perfect, right? By that I mean the basic settings. If they are not right then why bother trying to compensate for misadjustments?
Re: Dyno day/ tech tips/ routine maint. event
i tried to get as close to that process as i could with what i had to work with.
i had scotty do my 6k and degree my cams and then immediately took my bike to spectrum for my custom (advanced) map. needless to say, i had the right idea but chose poorly in execution.
i _feel_ that id i'd gone straight to louie after my 6k i would have been happier.
..no need to ask me to stand back. i'm still waitin for you to get your dyno rig so we can enjoy the same quality of service here in socal. [cheeky]ducman851 said:
i tried to get as close to that process as i could with what i had to work with.
i had scotty do my 6k and degree my cams and then immediately took my bike to spectrum for my custom (advanced) map. needless to say, i had the right idea but chose poorly in execution.
i _feel_ that id i'd gone straight to louie after my 6k i would have been happier.
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