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I agree ^ and if I could change one thing that I wish Ducati did it would be the factory headlights. Give us a more retro/oldschool single headlight again for my M 1100 S
I actually like our generation of Monster headlight. I just installed an LED light assembly into the stock metal frame/housing rather than buy the more expensive Motodemic light because I actually like the look of this one. I like the retro look of the Motodemic as well, but not as much as the current one.
 

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I own an 06 S2R, the last of the original design evolution. When I was younger, I loved the look of the monster, no other bike captured the simplicity of a naked bike. I look at the newer monsters and see the similarities to the original icon, but it is being plasticized and molded in what appears to be cheapening the design and manufacturing. To me, this is inline with all the jap bikes that produce a naked bike, they have many cheap looking parts molded to them. The original monster design stood strong from 93-08(or maybe 09), the engine choices changed and swing arm types were altered, but the overall design and execution were the same for 15 years. These older bikes (now) had way less molded parts then, as the bike truly looked like the parts bin creation it was, all surrounded by a complete trellis frame Ducati was so famous for producing.

IMO the newer generation monsters still look better than the competition, and they clearly look like they have descended from the original, but a full trellis frame without a bolt on sub frame and lots of plastic molded bits hiding areas is a huge part of the aesthetics. But, monsters are meant to be customized as the owner wishes. Again, this is all my opinion and if you are reading this and own a newer (less attractive..haha) monster, i am jealous of the new performance you have at your fingertips, but i didn't by an Italian bike for the tech.

While others claim that it is technology driven as to why the monster has changed its shape over the years, i disagree, it is more to do with the Ducati bean counters trying to extract every last penny from the most successful bike the company has ever produced. So if you tell me that i can't fit ABS, or larger catalytic, or newer tech(TFT, better headlight, adjustable suspension) like the new bikes on my 06 S2R without a full redesign of the bike, I'll call BS on you. Ducati didn't need to change the original iconic design, they wanted to make more money, so they added cheaper manufacturing methods. BTW, this all helped spawn the cheaper 1098, and help Ducati get their super-bike to more customers that wouldn't spend the money on a finicky Italian bike, so there is some good as to they cheaper manufacturing methods clearly.

in the end, Monster owners bought this bike because it is still an elegant design where less is more, even though there is more to the monster than there used to be.
 

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I have an S2R. That one and the S4R are my favorites design-wise. I'm not the biggest fan of the newer models though some I like more than others. I don't care for how they tend to have only a partial trellis frame in front and I think they look a bit hunch backed with the flatter headlight. I think the little hat fairing looks a little out of place too. Even then, I like them better than most of the naked Japanese bikes. The FZ models look awful to me with their odd lines and unfinished gap between the top of the headlight and bottom of the gauges. I think the XSR looks fantastic though short of the butt plug taillight.

I do, however, really like the newer Monster models where they extended the trellis frame further back like the older first gen models:




I'd still put a round headlight on it, personally.
 

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I'm OK with the minimal frame on my 1200, it's almost to the point of, we don't need no stinking frame. :laugh

Changing your manufacturing processes and designs and getting better reliability and longer service intervals is great, imo. You can't see much of the bike when riding, and riding is why I bought it. It rocks. :grin

I think there are elements where they went cheaper, thinking the owner would change that part anyway. I am thinking of the plain boring black levers, I an not even sure they are metal, but they work. But the Aluminum CNC levers from China were non expensive at $37 to my door, are more adjustable, they fold in case of tipover, and much cooler looking in "Italy color". Knock carbon fiber on the fitment, they are in the box waiting on me.
 

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I'm looking forward to writing this post decrying the 2030 Monster models: "I've been in love with Monsters since I first saw somebody growl by on 696 or 796 with its under seat exhausts. It only got better from there. Ducati improved tremendously on this with the 1100 and its curved exhaust pipes.

The subtle angling of the 1200/821/797 models' tanks was a great improvement over the 696 and 796 with their strange and incongruous metal grills, but they did not get overwhelmed by the angular insect trend that afflicted Japanese and many European models of the time. Color was very important for these models, and helped them distinguish themselves further - the white and red paint scheme of the 821s and 797s might be the best non-red paint scheme Ducati ever made, and it's been downhill since then.

Even though liquid cooled Monsters had a rocky visual history, the 1200 was the first one to seem truly comfortable with all its plumbing, owing in no small part to the decision to black many components below the frame and draw attention away using color and clever placement - the red border around the radiator was pure brilliance.

It was a superb addition to the Monster design language, and in my opinion the pinnacle of Ducati's design thinking. The Euro8 standards ensure that the new machines can't be what the old ones were. Don't get me wrong, the new models are wonderful and will make plenty of money for Ducati with their improved comfort, power, approachability, and reliability, but they lost some of the magic of these really classy older models."

Seriously, though, younger riders still find Monsters sexy and amazing. My 797 has turned dozens of Westchester kids into future Ducatisti, much to the chagrin of their bougie parents. Ducati's evolving and keeps pulling cool tricks out of the hat for the Monsters: here's hoping it doesn't get boxed in by its own fandom like Harley Davidson did.
 

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I think there is a huge bias toward a "true Ducati" that is built around where they were at when you joined the hobby. For me, it's single sided swing arm, dry clutch superbikes, desmo valves and the L Twin. In reality, they built a ton of bikes before the SSSA and will make plenty past. They have built mono and V-4 in the past and do again. Desmo valves have endured, but even time may overtake them as well. Trellis frames were the crux of 90's and 00's tech but now with more advanced modeling the same flex can be built into many different architectures. I still love the company and how they build bikes, but unless you want to be Morgan or Harley Davidson, evolve or die.
 

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I agree totally. Though I was disappointed when they moved away from dry clutches, I understood the reasoning. Desmodromic valves though, well, that’s their “thing” . If they move away from that, they are giving up their identity.
As far as styling goes, I’ve never been a fan of the Multi, though it’s probably a big seller.
Thats just personal taste. The other models have evolved, and they had to.
 

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TOTALLY agree! Also, in case the folks in Italy are reading this, bring back a sport tourer....kinda like the ST, but better...and dont screw it up! LOL
 

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I agree totally. Though I was disappointed when they moved away from dry clutches, I understood the reasoning. Desmodromic valves though, well, that’s their “thing” . If they move away from that, they are giving up their identity.
As far as styling goes, I’ve never been a fan of the Multi, though it’s probably a big seller.
Thats just personal taste. The other models have evolved, and they had to.
Ill be kind and say the multi is the prettiest TOURING bike they have ever made. Holy
Cow were some of those super sport and touring models of the 90s ugly. (900SS Being a dramatic exception)
 

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2014 monster 1200S
I love mine...
I love yours too...

But realistically I really just love riding. When I am on it I cant really see it so it comes down to how it feels.

Rex
 

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I agree totally. Though I was disappointed when they moved away from dry clutches, I understood the reasoning. Desmodromic valves though, well, that’s their “thing” . If they move away from that, they are giving up their identity.
As far as styling goes, I’ve never been a fan of the Multi, though it’s probably a big seller.
Thats just personal taste. The other models have evolved, and they had to.
Maybe they can leap ahead and be the first to utilize Koenigsegg’s pneumatic system
 

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I voted with my wallet last fall for a yellow 2000 750. I love the gold trellis frame, simple and pretty engine, and overall aesthetic of the first Monsters, to me they are a classic bike interpreted through modern eyes (well, 1993 modern). They aren't heavy or heavy-looking, everything is straight forward and thought out, and the first time I popped the seat and undid that amazing latch to lift the tank I smiled like a total idiot. I wanted a 1st-gen for years and feel like I somehow ended up with the perfect first bike, something simple to learn on but definitely more interesting and unique than a lot of $2k bikes.
 

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I voted with my wallet last fall for a yellow 2000 750. I love the gold trellis frame, simple and pretty engine, and overall aesthetic of the first Monsters, to me they are a classic bike interpreted through modern eyes (well, 1993 modern). They aren't heavy or heavy-looking, everything is straight forward and thought out, and the first time I popped the seat and undid that amazing latch to lift the tank I smiled like a total idiot. I wanted a 1st-gen for years and feel like I somehow ended up with the perfect first bike, something simple to learn on but definitely more interesting and unique than a lot of $2k bikes.
Congrats! That's definitely one of the high water marks through the generations.
 

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I own a 2001 900ie. To me one of the best looking Monsters, The thing that spoils later 'modern bikes is the seat design. Why does it have to look like a crane tow truck thing sticking up at a 45 deg. angle.
Here is what was a design concept for an S4. yes, sorry, mirrored image but apart from the awful mufflers....well.....maybe too far on the rear lowering,and the pillion would have to have really short legs.....but, handling aside it looks better.

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standard monster....horrible seat design.
I think the seat on my '14 is fine. No real problems with comfort. The upslope at the back help me stay in place when releasing the ponies.

It's a motorcycle. It's not supposed to be overly comfortable. It's supposed to be fun, exciting, and fast.
If every now and then it makes you **** your pants, well that is just part of the deal. :LOL:
 
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