I'm running Arrows on mine with stock airbox & ECU & my mid range is fine. No noticeable loss but I haven't dyno'd it so I can't give you hard #'s. Seems to be a little lean but that's about it.
Techlusion Box... PC III, Rapid Bike, Techlusion Box... so many choices....sig_edmund said:Hey guys! I have had the arrow system on my S4RS, and I have a much simpler solution than Power Commander. Techlusion Box, this way you can still adjust the mixture. It worked wonders on my bike larger punch everywhere in the range (very streetable) and holy crap HP on top. I am also going to take this chance to say I just sold the S4RS and I have the System, Techlusion box, and BMC air filter. So if you are interested drop me a line!
I'd find this odd as they come from the factory on the lean side for emissions purposes. Don't see where removing the O2 sensor is going to richen it and CERTAINLY not to a point where it would be richer AFTER adding a higher flowing exhaust.Caboose said:2007 S2R1K with the full ARROW system, O2 sensor disconnected. My bike runs much better than stock. I can't tell if it's making more power, but certainly not less. I could likely add a pipercross or K&N air filter, as the bike runs a little rich with the O2 removed.
Hey Caboose,,,Caboose said:2007 S2R1K with the full ARROW system, O2 sensor disconnected. My bike runs much better than stock. I can't tell if it's making more power, but certainly not less. I could likely add a pipercross or K&N air filter, as the bike runs a little rich with the O2 removed.
Dude, this is the internet. It's nothing but speculation......and porn [thumbsup].motolocopat said:I'd find this odd as they come from the factory on the lean side for emissions purposes. Don't see where removing the O2 sensor is going to richen it and CERTAINLY not to a point where it would be richer AFTER adding a higher flowing exhaust.
Have you had it tested, or purely speculating?
Thanks for the response, I had heard as much, but its nice to get feedback from people who actually have this setup.Caboose said:Carby's so no baffles.
Stock ECU...TPS, AF, everything tuned to perfection...well as close as it gets. No mods to the intake side of the bike.There is zero popping on deceleration or any of the other nastiness related to a lean running bike.
Excellent price, but I have to pass for now. I'd love to, but finances dictate making this purchase sometime next year.sig_edmund said:Well about the system's compatibility, I'm not sure. As to the cost... well the whole system has about 4,000 miles on it but I would be willing to part with the Full System, Techlusion box, and Air filter for $1,000.. I have after all gotten a lot of help from the guys on this board. Let me know what you think.
Dude, this was well said. I have an Arrow exhaust on my 07 S2R 1000 and even installed Arrow dB killers cause it was so goddamn loud. Spending money on upgrading your exhaust without tuning your ECU to save money is like pouring a bowl of cereal and skipping the milk to save money.I am running a full Arrow Ti system with the baffles in. I like the baffles as they give a little backpressure and I seem to be able to get by without any major tuning. It sounds great, nice throaty sound, and seems to have a bit more power. I have not done any tuning to it yet.
Eventually I will probably go with the Rapidbike III and a K&N filter.
When I do this I will add another hole into the baffles and open the airbox just a tad.
I'll then set up two maps for the system, one baffles in and open airbox(track), and another with airbox on/baffles in (street).
I have grown past the stage of having a fully uncorked bike for street use. All an uncorked bike does is piss off large parts of the general public, endangering our sport, damages your hearing and tires you out prematurely. Save the uncorked bikes for the track, your neighbors will thank you and your children might as well since they may still be able to ride a nice throaty sounding machine because Dad was not an irresponsible prick that helped give all the uptight aholes the ammunition needed to legislate us into oblivion.... [thumbsup]
Think about it........ also doesn't make ANY SENSE to put a full race system on and then say "I'm not going to tune it" Just makes you a real poseur as all you are doing it for is to make noise
If this is your approach to tuning then no wonder you had problems with previous systems :
Excuse me for being so blunt ;D