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Flack jacket isn't bad...but not my thing. Be pretty funny if they weren't up to military standards.
 

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Paper5tr3et7 said:
Flack jacket isn't bad...but not my thing. Be pretty funny if they weren't up to military standards.
For riding gear, the flack jacket is NOT to reg. It is not light in color for day, nor is it bright and reflective for night.

But these are...



As a member of said service, if I wore any of that gear I would kick my own ass. Oppsec is beat down our throats every single day, and now they want to advertise on the back of a jacket? The only people who would wear this crap is people that *want* to join, those right out of basic training, or lifers. No self respecting person would ever consider plastering that logo all over.

"Army of One" - Fail
"Army Strong" - Will fail
NASCAR sponsorship - Well... it is NASCAR, need I say more?
That whole Iraq/Afganastan thing - Not exactly popular
Upping max age to 42 - huh?
"Army" riding gear - another future failure in the Army's recruiting drive.
 

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wakaba said:
For riding gear, the flack jacket is NOT to reg. It is not light in color for day, nor is it bright and reflective for night.

But these are...



As a member of said service, if I wore any of that gear I would kick my own ass. Oppsec is beat down our throats every single day, and now they want to advertise on the back of a jacket? The only people who would wear this crap is people that *want* to join, those right out of basic training, or lifers. No self respecting person would ever consider plastering that logo all over.

"Army of One" - Fail
"Army Strong" - Will fail
NASCAR sponsorship - Well... it is NASCAR, need I say more?
That whole Iraq/Afganastan thing - Not exactly popular
Upping max age to 42 - huh?
"Army" riding gear - another future failure in the Army's recruiting drive.
I was in the army - I like the gear think it looks nice
 

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wakaba said:
As a member of said service, if I wore any of that gear I would kick my own ass. Oppsec is beat down our throats every single day, and now they want to advertise on the back of a jacket?
Umm, don't you think the base sticker on your bike (or car for that matter) gives you away?
 

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Ya think either of those 'models' ever got within a mile of a recruiting office? [cheeky]
 

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youngonenc17 said:
I'm diggen the flak jacket they got.
That Nice Guy Beck said:
I like the flak
Really fellas? Doesn't strike you as a bit squidly? I think I might have a bit of a laugh if I saw someone wearing one of those flak vests.

Right before I got my butt kicked for laughing at the dude showing off the "guns"
 

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Umm, don't you think the base sticker on your bike (or car for that matter) gives you away?
My sticker is on a CF plate bolted to the front of my air box. Then again, the stickers in Japan are different then the ones in the states. Plus at 80mph, nobody is going to really see the small base sticker tucked up under the head lamp, or where ever, but they WILL see the 1'x2' US ARMY on the back of a jacket.
 

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I like the ARPAT digital cammo sides!

Seriously, I wish the BX would carry or at least catalog-carry quality motorcycle gear. The stupid rules of the military force you to wear a "long-sleeve" top, which could be a t-shirt. What good is that? My poor airmen scrape together everything they have just to own a motorcycle and end up scrimping on the gear. A good discounted offering through AAFES would be great.
 

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I can't see what you guys are talking about, does anyone have a URL to a jpg?

There's supposedly a crew of cops troopers and guards that ride around my way that wear a flack type jacket for colors. I saw 2 of them before I knew they existed, I just thought it was spec ops dudes going to work..
 

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My sticker is on a CF plate bolted to the front of my air box. Then again, the stickers in Japan are different then the ones in the states. Plus at 80mph, nobody is going to really see the small base sticker tucked up under the head lamp, or where ever, but they WILL see the 1'x2' US ARMY on the back of a jacket.
Either way, OPSEC refers to not giving out the details of Operations or movements. It has nothing to do with service loyalty. Go into your local BX, PX, NEX and you will see t-shirts, jackets, running pants, etc that all have service logos on them.

BTW, I've been in the Navy for 12 years now and have been to more than my fair share of OPSEC briefs, especially while operating out of country...
 

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Either way, OPSEC refers to not giving out the details of Operations or movements. It has nothing to do with service loyalty. Go into your local BX, PX, NEX and you will see t-shirts, jackets, running pants, etc that all have service logos on them.

BTW, I've been in the Navy for 12 years now and have been to more than my fair share of OPSEC briefs, especially while operating out of country...
I never once said opsec had something to do with service loyalty. I too am in the service, and have been for over a decade. I have been to more opsec, saeda and blah blah. Call it force protection, call it opsec, call it what you want. Wearing the logo of what ever branch, your "don't mess with texas" shirt or what have you can give away operations, movements, or what ever. CONUS it's fine, although I try not to advertise that I am in the employ of the gov't. OCONUS they shove through you NOT to stand out as a service member, and to blend in. Maybe when you were operation out of the country you didn't see that AFN spot. If you want to wear the tacky stuff while at the gym on base, that is fine. But don't expect NOT to stick out like a sore thumb while walking off base.

I am not trying to start a flame war, but any advertisement of your work for the US governement leaves you open for targeting by who ever you want. Hence US Forces Europe have gone to a license plate that more closely resembles the EU plates. Those of us in japan will be moving from the Y and A plates, to something in hiragana.
 

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I never once said opsec had something to do with service loyalty. I too am in the service, and have been for over a decade. I have been to more opsec, saeda and blah blah. Call it force protection, call it opsec, call it what you want. Wearing the logo of what ever branch, your "don't mess with texas" shirt or what have you can give away operations, movements, or what ever. CONUS it's fine, although I try not to advertise that I am in the employ of the gov't. OCONUS they shove through you NOT to stand out as a service member, and to blend in. Maybe when you were operation out of the country you didn't see that AFN spot. If you want to wear the tacky stuff while at the gym on base, that is fine. But don't expect NOT to stick out like a sore thumb while walking off base.

I am not trying to start a flame war, but any advertisement of your work for the US governement leaves you open for targeting by who ever you want. Hence US Forces Europe have gone to a license plate that more closely resembles the EU plates. Those of us in japan will be moving from the Y and A plates, to something in hiragana.
yea but I dont think rockin an army logo in brooklyn should have me worried.
 

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I never once said opsec had something to do with service loyalty. I too am in the service, and have been for over a decade. I have been to more opsec, saeda and blah blah. Call it force protection, call it opsec, call it what you want. Wearing the logo of what ever branch, your "don't mess with texas" shirt or what have you can give away operations, movements, or what ever. CONUS it's fine, although I try not to advertise that I am in the employ of the gov't. OCONUS they shove through you NOT to stand out as a service member, and to blend in. Maybe when you were operation out of the country you didn't see that AFN spot. If you want to wear the tacky stuff while at the gym on base, that is fine. But don't expect NOT to stick out like a sore thumb while walking off base.

I am not trying to start a flame war, but any advertisement of your work for the US governement leaves you open for targeting by who ever you want. Hence US Forces Europe have gone to a license plate that more closely resembles the EU plates. Those of us in japan will be moving from the Y and A plates, to something in hiragana.
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So if I follow this correctly, there should be no American Legions bases anywhere or anything of that matter since some of the people who work there are still employed by the military, because they are easy targets?

People wear the shirts and jackets of their service branch all the time. Not because they want to stand out but because they want to show their pride for what they do.
 
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