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So, the bike to the left has been "totaled". I should be recieving about $8200 from my insurance company and I am now looking to get another Monster-yep, I got a chance to buy something else and I can't wait to get the same bike!!

Anyway, in new England there are 4 used 02 S4 available. Mileage varies from 200 to 6000 and prices are $8000 to $9500. The other model I'm looking at is the M1000Sie. Around here prices are about $9500.

My 01 M900Sie made me very happy. I loved the way power came on in the low and mid ranges. Sometimes I wished for more top end. Since leftover 01s are pretty scarce now, I'm looking at the two bikes listed above. I need some opinions about them. Is the S4 Superbike engine (916) a lot different than the M900's? I rode a 748 and didn't really care for it's low end though it went like a raped ape when the revs got in the 8-9K range-yikes! Is the 916 engine like that or does it have low and mid range too. Anyone ride a M900 and a M1000. How different are they? How does an S4 compare to the M1000?

One thing I don't like about the S4 (aside from the plumbing and high maint costs) are the controls. They appear to be the controls off a ST. Anyone have any experience mounting a standard Monster triple? I'd like to get some Road Racing or Cycle Cat clips ons (over the triple types).

Finally, if I can't decide, maybe I'll buy back my totaled bike and build one of these:
http://13choppers.com/

TIA,
Miles
 
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Miles, Glad to see you back and still lovin Monsters! I have to tell you, I LOVE my m1000. Not as fast as an s4, But loads of tourque, and pretty good top end. The "S" comes with fully adjustable suspension, which is good news.
Maintenance costs are lower than the s4, and it's a pretty clean package. The s4 has a bit more bite on the top end, but I think for the back road blasting most of us do, the Dual Spark 1000 is perfect.
 

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I had a M900 that got totaled.

I now have a S4. There was about 1 1/2 years between the M900 and the S4.

The S4 has alot more power at the top end. Seat of the pants I would guess about the same torque at the lower end. Ergonomics were pretty close as well.

Both bikes had termis, airbox mods and ECU. I think the M900 was a little more throaty.

I have no complaints about the S4, except the cheesy fairing.

IF the M1000 and the S4 are the same price used, I would get the S4.
 
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Or buy the m1000 and change the sprockets for even more low end!
Oh, by the way, how much does the 6000 mile service cost on an s4? :eek:
Hell, If I would have known there was an s4r on the way, I may have waited for one of those. But that's a little different than the s4.
 

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Just to get you oriented on the difference between the M900 and the S4...I borrowed some data from here:

http://www.moto-one.com.au/performance/900sscarb944.html

A stock (I_think) 900 other than a High Compression 944 kit.
They do say it had too much advance to be a long-life motor.



Shows the difference in the character of the motors.
The stock motor was about 5 HP below the 944 at the bottom end, and about 10 HP in the middle and 8 HP on the top.
So it would be only a little better than the S4 up to 6000, then be down by 10 HP at 7000, and down by 25 HP at 8000.

Granted, I don't spend a lot of time over 6000, but it's nice to be able to play up there once in a while.
 

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A couple of other items to consider other than speed, HP, and torque would be the added bling bling on the S4. The lighter wheels and the carbon fiber bits alone cost justify the S4. The maintenance cannot be that much more for the 4 valver. If you were afraid to pay for scheduled maintence, you wouldn't have gotten a Duc in the first place.

I picked the S4 over the 1000 for the fact that it is a SBK engine in a beautiful naked bike. Ahh, a dream come true!
 

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I love my S4.
If I had the 1000 I am sure I would love that also.
 
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