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mgoodie 08-16-2005 12:17 PM

turning right...why does it seem harder??
 
Last night was my first night at MSF BRC!* I can now ride around a parking lot and weave in and out of cones at 15 mph!* *:D* *However, one thing I noticed was it is a lot harder to turn right.* I talked to my friends who ride after class and they said a lot of people have trouble with this so it's not just me.* Does anyone know why this is or how to make it easier?

davidbeinct 08-16-2005 12:20 PM

Re: turning right...why does it seem harder??
 
The explanation I've heard is that your body naturally wants to protect its dominant side. Since most people are right-handed, that's the right side. Since a motorcycle turns by leaning, leaning right is harder to convince one's body to do, for most people.

For me, I'm right-handed but left-eyed. I turn easier to the right, go figure.

David B.

Gearhead_42 08-16-2005 12:32 PM

Re: turning right...why does it seem harder??
 
I also found it much harder to turn right... but I'm left handed! [laugh]

My only thought is that your sub-conscious is trying not to let the throttle open with pressure on that grip... using some of the available brain power that would otherwise "calm you down" in the corner.

Anyone else?

SupaFly_2_EB 08-16-2005 12:43 PM

Re: turning right...why does it seem harder??
 
I think it has something to do with the throttle being on that side. Maybe trying to do two things at once with the same hand or trying not to upset/ be smooth with it...or something.

620mblack 08-16-2005 01:00 PM

Re: turning right...why does it seem harder??
 
Thats odd, Im right handed and I love turning right. I wonder if it has anything to do with my boardsports though (surfing, snowboarding, skating, and wakeboarding) because Im goofy footed, (right foot first)
If anything I have a problem turning left, I dont hang off the seat and get as low........

philb 08-16-2005 05:49 PM

Re: turning right...why does it seem harder??
 
I might guess that our experience on the road makes us more wary of the right side (in the U.S.) because when you turn right in normal traffic, there are things much closer to your right side (lampposts, waiting pedestrians, etc.) than on the left. The way to check if this is true would be to see if riders in Britain/Australia/Japan are more wary of left turns in general.

philb

D-C 08-16-2005 08:43 PM

Re: turning right...why does it seem harder??
 
supafly is onto it. It has tons to do with body position and a lot to do with experience. You can learn proper body positioning through books like Nick Ienatch's Sportriding Techniques or take a real live class (that's more advanced than MSF) like Pridmore, Fat Freddie Spencer (just kidding, he rules) or the like.

By using proper techniques and practicing you will have Ninja-like abilities in both left AND right handers, grasshoppah!

cookiemonster 08-16-2005 10:12 PM

Re: turning right...why does it seem harder??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by philb
I might guess that our experience on the road makes us more wary of the right side (in the U.S.) because when you turn right in normal traffic, there are things much closer to your right side (lampposts, waiting pedestrians, etc.) than on the left. The way to check if this is true would be to see if riders in Britain/Australia/Japan are more wary of left turns in general.

philb

Well Im down here in Australia and I also find turing right harder (and am right handed). [laugh]

I have, however, had a right side crash so that may be a more reasonalbe answer in my case. I forced myself over a few weekends to really hang off the right side, and i think that it worked, and now i naturally tend to hang off the right better (though still not as good as the left).

I like the "protect the dominant side" arguement!

mgoodie 08-17-2005 01:18 PM

Re: turning right...why does it seem harder??
 
so i spoke too soo! [laugh]

last night was night 2 of msf. i was doing terrible at my turning left and leaning to the right amazingly well!

jrfuisz 08-17-2005 05:21 PM

Re: turning right...why does it seem harder??
 
I agree with SupaFly and D-C - When you go to the extremes of control you'll find that left is always easier. Doing a donut to the left is much easier than to the right. The throttle is what gets you.

My lame $0.02 - To cure yourself (as much as you can) practice turning left but treat the handle bar like it is an egg - no more pressure than would break the thing. You need to train your arms to push and pull but not death grip the thing. When your arms are relaxed you'll turn better. You need to apply that same handling technique to your right hand, which gets a tad more difficult. The gas thing. But if you understand the left you should be able to get the smae touch going on the right. I use my thumb and first finger to control the gas - let the rest of the hand to other things. It is easiest to keep the pressure light. Once you do that you should be able to push and pull with your right arm as you do with the left and turning should get eaiser.

Then go to phase two and learn how to use your body. You should be holding onto the bike with your knees and using your stomach muscles to hold your body upright - not your arms. Your amrs should not be carryiing your body's weight. To help this process for those of us with no stomach muscle to speak of, as you turn your outside kneee should be driving down through the center of the bike. Actually push it into the tank and down the enter of the bike. This is not going to turn the bike so much as get your body where it needs to be and doing what is should. It helps you get the lower body doing what it should, which is what it is not doing when you can't turn right. You can't drive your left knee on right turns if your right arm is stiff and your grip is to tight. It also will give you the pecursor to hang off the thing one day.


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