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08-01-2019 08:35 PM
Buhgaboo
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Originally Posted by Josi View Post
I havenít weighed my gear, I am between 95-100kg.

I have changed fork springs from stock 8.0 to 9.5 and found this a bit too much, so now I have 9.0. This change is based on wrong information/signals from the forks (Just found out after posting here). It turned out there was a danmage to inner fork tube after repair. Incorrect tools were used and had squeezed the top of the inner leg. This made the fork much more friction on the top of the stroke. Since all signals have been misinterpreted because of this I have to start all over.

The rear shock has 115NM and now changed to 140Nm.

I have no photos of my worn tyres. They were evenly worn. Now I use Metzeler m7rr for active street/tour and Supercorsa for trackdays, both sets are new.

My suspension technician told me it was not possible to get new valve set and no cartridge manufacturer offer cartridge kit to my bike. Is this really the case? I canít find anything myself. If anyone has som examples for shimstack, valve or perhaps cartridge, I would be grateful.

I couldnít agree more. Donít be in a hurry to go fast. To build/change suspension takes time.
....I too agree 9.5 is a bit excessive for the street...I'm leaning towards chainging the geometry to get a little more from the brakes before I try a 9.25 combo...I also found that changing the fork level drastically slows the stroke down...a 1 liter bottle will just about give you 150cm of an airgap in each leg...which is in my opinion... plush... reviewing my own videos I can see that I've been relying on the spring tension alone to function...the fork speed is perfect but as my speed increases the fork just smashes the bottom without hesitation...the more aggressive you get the more you spend time at the bottom of the stroke and the higher that level needs to be to keep it safe....I'm up near 80cm now and I'm just picking the rear tire up with around 30mm of travel to spare...I haven't gone to the local area ohlins guru here yet...nor have I taken the fork apart far enough to see the piston but I am under the impression that ohlins are generally infinitely adjustable...piston kits essentially move more fluid... while shims become the means to dampen it...with changing shims comes the answer to the question when in the hell am I going to need integral calculus...

I also found that my left stanchion is bent slightly..about 1 mm...there is a bit of stickion at the bottom...but under that load and spring tension there is little worry that it's going to be felt...it certainly hasn't helped stop the fork from bottoming... nonetheless I plan on replacing it one day...

That was the forks...the shock on the other hand...a 140 spring on the rear is about what you would need with a 9.5 [email protected] seems a bit stiff...Unless your riding 2up...you essentially went from 657lb force to 800lb...for reference I'm just barely kissing the rubber stop on a 115 rear spring with no free sag and was looking to get a 130 ... essentially an extra 100lbs of support...but am concerned that it's just going to punish me in ride quality...might opt for the 120...wish there was a 125... either way, the longer I put it off...the thinner the shock oil gets and the faster it flows when hot... basically giving me what I want anyway...the rear shock should absolutely be tunable...it's why I got it.

You might want to talk to an Ųhlins rep or try the k-tech route if money isn't an obstacle and your still needing more performance...but before you do...make sure your getting the most out of your current setup...tires don't lie...math still sucks...lol





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07-12-2019 05:58 AM
Josi I haven’t weighed my gear, I am between 95-100kg.

I have changed fork springs from stock 8.0 to 9.5 and found this a bit too much, so now I have 9.0. This change is based on wrong information/signals from the forks (Just found out after posting here). It turned out there was a danmage to inner fork tube after repair. Incorrect tools were used and had squeezed the top of the inner leg. This made the fork much more friction on the top of the stroke. Since all signals have been misinterpreted because of this I have to start all over.

The rear shock has 115NM and now changed to 140Nm.

I have no photos of my worn tyres. They were evenly worn. Now I use Metzeler m7rr for active street/tour and Supercorsa for trackdays, both sets are new.

My suspension technician told me it was not possible to get new valve set and no cartridge manufacturer offer cartridge kit to my bike. Is this really the case? I can’t find anything myself. If anyone has som examples for shimstack, valve or perhaps cartridge, I would be grateful.

I couldn’t agree more. Don’t be in a hurry to go fast. To build/change suspension takes time.
07-11-2019 08:08 AM
Kidnplay01 Do you mind me asking what weight with gear and what you changed to? Being from Au I’m 120kg with gear.. and went to Ducati for set up and not much offered. I’m Au not many do anything for mods.
07-05-2019 10:41 PM
Buhgaboo Springs for weight is only a vague starting point of a long expensive dialogue. . .I can't comment on your forks and shocks specifically but you won't need to worry about a re valve until your at the upper end of adjustment on any of the settings... Closed? I'm all the way out for the rear shock in rebound (Ohlins ttx) and my tire wear up front (Ohlins 1200s) is ideal but I'm blasting through the stroke on a set of 9.0 springs with 15 turns of Preload (175lb rider)... everything was manageable with a Rosso2. The Power RS Is another animal... Super Corsa? Yeah! you need a re valve to reach its potential... Rolling off the throttle mid corner whips the rear-end out from underneath me because the valving is too damn fast... the rear is due for service and will get that sorted at a shop... Putting in a set of 10.0 springs up front and based on their behavior l will get the valving adjusted to suit... If shims can't solve my problem I'll slow down ...lol a cartridge is essentially a commitment to going faster.... and the monster is governed by its lean angle so its sort of a waste. Why not post a pic of your tires. .. they will tell you what you really need...



Don't be in a hurry to go fast.

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07-02-2019 02:10 PM
Josi
Monster 1200R cartridge or suspension tune

I have had my M1200R for a while now and done more than 4K km mostly on active road trips, but also track days.

I have never really liked the front forks, I find them too progressive and soft. The springs are changed to fit my weight. Sag is now perfect.

I find the rear shock ok after changing spring.

The rebound adjustment is adjusted almost fully closed, and there is just not enough.

Have anybody managed to find a good cartridge kit for this bike?

Or maybe a set of shims, piston, valves (flow control needle) that improves the suspension?

Anyone with suggestions or experience that could share?

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