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07-23-2016 04:46 AM
andrewktm450
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Originally Posted by Duke Arty View Post
Hi everyone just popping my head in to update this personal record of whats been done to the 696, and say hi to all!

i managed to finally get round to redooing the forks with oem fork kit/seals etc, and im embarrased to admit the problem was with me all along lol,

i had put the washer in front of the seal on both forks for some unknown reason, must have been tired at the time and rushed to get it finished, so anyways, both legs are now leak free and functioning absolutely excellently for non adjustable showas,
ive rebuilt sets of motorbike fork legs maybe 9 times now dirt & road and all have worked out great but this time.

i also just resealed the stator case with 3bond grey and there are no oil leaks anymore neither

its raining here it melb but with a fresh lot of oil/filter just done too i took the ole girl for a hoot round the block just then and its running and riding like a champ, feels better then ever.

for the fork oil, i mixed 50/50 10w and 5 w to git 7.5 and put 350ml a side, the manual lists a diff amount for each yrs that the monster 696 is made, so its very hard to know whats "right".

such a beaut motorbike, really is. glad i bought it, even tho its needed a fair bit of diking round due to previous owner negligence, thankfully i dont think they did too much harm to it.

next thing i need to is do the valve check.
have to read up on that.

cheers everyone from me.


edit, a tip for duc owners,[in my opinion]

i worked out what was making the clutch not engage so well when the bikes warmed up, i think if your clutch master reserviour is over filled or too filled up when it gets hot due to the slave sitting on the side of the engine case, the liquid expands slightly and forces the clutch rod in slightly, i noticed when i dumped some clutch fluid so there is an air gap in the master reserviour[ie less that full] it engages much better and smoother.

thats my observation.


Did you have problems with the clutch slipping when giving it full throttle in the top gears? I was told my bike 2009 696 has a slipper clutch but I've never known it to slip like that. It slips the wrong way.


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06-08-2016 04:46 AM
Duke Arty Hi everyone just popping my head in to update this personal record of whats been done to the 696, and say hi to all!

i managed to finally get round to redooing the forks with oem fork kit/seals etc, and im embarrased to admit the problem was with me all along lol,

i had put the washer in front of the seal on both forks for some unknown reason, must have been tired at the time and rushed to get it finished, so anyways, both legs are now leak free and functioning absolutely excellently for non adjustable showas,
ive rebuilt sets of motorbike fork legs maybe 9 times now dirt & road and all have worked out great but this time.

i also just resealed the stator case with 3bond grey and there are no oil leaks anymore neither

its raining here it melb but with a fresh lot of oil/filter just done too i took the ole girl for a hoot round the block just then and its running and riding like a champ, feels better then ever.

for the fork oil, i mixed 50/50 10w and 5 w to git 7.5 and put 350ml a side, the manual lists a diff amount for each yrs that the monster 696 is made, so its very hard to know whats "right".

such a beaut motorbike, really is. glad i bought it, even tho its needed a fair bit of diking round due to previous owner negligence, thankfully i dont think they did too much harm to it.

next thing i need to is do the valve check.
have to read up on that.

cheers everyone from me.


edit, a tip for duc owners,[in my opinion]

i worked out what was making the clutch not engage so well when the bikes warmed up, i think if your clutch master reserviour is over filled or too filled up when it gets hot due to the slave sitting on the side of the engine case, the liquid expands slightly and forces the clutch rod in slightly, i noticed when i dumped some clutch fluid so there is an air gap in the master reserviour[ie less that full] it engages much better and smoother.

thats my observation.
02-15-2016 11:25 AM
Mik I've tried Tech Speck black snakeskin grips, Stomp grips in Volcano and currently trying out the Smoothridge. Also tried another type where its round beads, similar to a volcano...They sucked as the grip balls would tear off and fall off.

Just make sure you are placing the pads where your knees will be able to grip the tank, I've managed to put them on where I'm unable to get any traction from them and reapply. Also don't polish your tank too much if you don't have the pads.

To help relieve pressure off my wrists I've also rotated my bars upwards, then rotated the brake and clutch back down.
02-15-2016 12:01 AM
LeFraussie
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Originally Posted by Duke Arty View Post
My only 2 gripes are the seat is a torturous abomination [say good bye to your cojones if you ride longer then 30 mins haha] and the rear sets are functional but fugly as, both easily fixable items.
For the seat, you can buy a DP touring one. I think there is one on Ebay right now (not mine). Also buy some tank grips (AUD$50-$100). It will allow you to hold on the tank with your thighs and relieve the pressure from your wrists.

For the rear sets, I got mine powder coated in black so they don't stand out like dog's balls. And if you are not planning on carrying a pillion, you could even chop them.
02-08-2016 01:55 PM
Mik I used to play with cars back in Perth before all the anti hooning/impounding legislation kicked in, Always pulling stuff apart, looking at it and hoping it went back together. Got my Monster as Duc was the only "big" bike dealership at the time in Saigon/Ho Chi Minh City (Now theres HD, Kawasaki, KTM, Suzuki with a couple models and BMW) as the paperwork was a concern. Plenty of big bikes for sale but legal paperwork was rare (had to pay import duty of 100% as part of the cost of getting it legally registered and licensed) Figured buying it from the stealership and having fresh papers will be safer than running the risk of not being able to transfer the bikes name into my wifes (I didn't meet the criteria for the bike to be registered in my name) name.

The 795 is assembled by Thailand Ducati, (along with a couple other models including a 899 variant and diavel) so there was no crazy import duty as per the free trade agreement.
I started looking at customising it to make it look how I wanted it to be, tail chop, integrated brake light and a scotts steering damper first, then the exhaust, carbon, brake/clutch, carbon bar and clear clutch cover, finally the forks and AEM trip trees to complete the look. Never got around to swapping out the headlight with a LED one I had bought (3X2 rows rectangular one)

I had been thinking about the fork swap and had been looking for some Ohlins from a 1100s, Never found any on ebay. New price was not an option due to the crazy import duty and price per fork. I had taken my bike for what was the last service with Ducati Saigon and was talking with a trainer/tech/troubleshooter guy from Duc Singapore and Malaysia (same company who owns Duc vn, HD, Rolls Royce dealership in Hanoi, Infinity) who mentioned this other guy who had designed and machined out some forks. Specifically for the 795. He gave me the guys contact and I emailed him. We went back n forth but never got a price for the 1pr and shipping. I left it at that and went back to looking at fork swap options (848 SBK with spacers etc option) My mech/tuner is good friends with Roland of Motivation USA (makes sliders etc) and had mentioned these forks some time later. I contacted Roland and via his company, paid and got them shipped. Had them installed and immediately felt the front end was a lot firmer, no diving so much under brakes, I also had the adjustments for bound and rebound too. After I also got the trip trees ordered and installed the front end felt more tighter and had more feedback (top clamp doesn't have the rubber dampers built in where the bolts tighten the lower bar clamps) The reason why I wanted the adjustable forks was because of my weight. This bike was built for the SE Asian market. Now the majority of asians are lighter build and not as tall as the average westerner or aussie. I'm 6ft 100kg whereas these locals are around 65kg dripping wet and some 165-170cm. I had noticed the front end was diving under braking, also much of the travel taken up with sag. Had a few times where I've heard some bangs when I was hard on the brakes (never did a stoppie though) and hit some uneven road surfaces while doing motogymkhana so figured I was a bit heavy for the suspension.

its a bit long winded answer but yeah hope it helps.
02-08-2016 02:42 AM
Duke Arty @le fraussie, i must get new oem fork seals first as its leaking badly the aftermarket ones i put on, now the handling has been affected= its out of sync front to back and diving too much on corners cos of the loss of oil etc, soon as i do il update this post/topic and we will do it, would be great fun, i know the spur but havent rode it yet/

@Mik, those forks look the goods to me, stm, where do they come from may i politely enquire? Could you explain more about them if it behooves you? Thats a very interesting looking bike mik too, are you a tinkerer and do custom builds yourself etc, how did your 696/796 come about? fascinating.

My brother and i LOVE this motorbike, theres just something about these motors that you fall in love with, and it handles beautifully too, it isnt a true highway bike in the purest sense, tho it will do it easy enough, but absolutely perfect for scooting[re hooning haha] around the peninsula/ the low down torque is exceptional for cornering and great for overtaking up to about 130kms.

I like the simplicity of it too, no silly plastic shrouds, simply layout of controls, very easy acces to the motor, dont care for traction control either way, learn how to modulate the frnt and rear brakes yourself, nothing is better at discerning road conditions than a human brain, so learn to use it i say.

Doesnt even have much wind buffeting at hi speeds, surprisingly good like that. Just an overall great bike, i havent pushed it too hard or beyond my skill level, but can feel the potential.
I cant really fault it except perhaps the electricals are relatively cheaply made, but you can fix that yourself anyway if you want, or just maintain it.

My only 2 gripes are the seat is a torturous abomination [say good bye to your cojones if you ride longer then 30 mins haha] and the rear sets are functional but fugly as, both easily fixable items.

cheers from me to you guys too. This forum has been a great resource and extremely helpful for me.
01-30-2016 06:05 AM
Mik I usually scrape my toes when turning on my 795 (696 chassis/796 engine) I've got adjustable rear sets, installed a 1100 rear shock clevite to raise the ride height and a saddlemans race seat to try and stretch out my hip/thigh. Just have to remember to pull my toes back on the pegs when turning but its a great fun bike.
I've changed my front forks with some STM forks. Adjustable dampening and rebound. took me a couple yrs to actually get them.
01-30-2016 05:19 AM
LeFraussie @Dezmonster2106
I put a set of Q3 on my M1100S and I've been really impressed.
Only downside is that they don't last more than 6000kms. I might look at the Pirelli Rosso III when they come out.
The S2R is already back for sale? The first break-up never takes
Unfortunately it seems that people are scared of Ducatis with "high" mileage. It's a shame because these Desmodue could run forever.

@Duke Arty
Congrats on all the work you have undertaken and glad to see it paid off!
If you find yourself being limited by the clearance, you could install a shock to swingarm clevis from a 796/1100 and push the forks a little bit. Otherwise buy an aftermarket adjustable rearset.

When are you guys available for a Monster ride around the Spurs?
01-15-2016 02:10 AM
Duke Arty Just an update on the bike, its still running great, but the aftermarket fork seals leak, so dont waste your money go oem like previous poster said in this topic.

Love the bike, its a great machine, really great motor, i love the throbbing throaty grunt she makes outta the L- twin donk, intoxicating rumble, great torque for cornering, plenty fast enuf for the 100km speed limit here.

The 60/40 mix of 10w+5w fork oil @530ml per leg worked extremely well, the front end was working brilliantly after that. but they are sagging and diving now due to loss of oil from leaky seals.

Recently purchased some foam slip on hanbdlebar grips that were well worth the 25$, they have vastly improved comfort and mitigated the slight vibes thru the bars very well.

I placed them over the original existing ones, heres a pic, both my bro and i now suffer much less from numb hands syndrome and its quite a bit more comfortable to grip the bars as well.
12-08-2015 06:10 AM
Duke Arty I just put a new fuel filter in and cleaned the air filter + re oiled,

Wow, what a difference thats made, it had a slight hesitation on the throttle but thats gone now and its absolutely purring and even feels noticeably more responsive and even of acceleration and less grabby in 1st & 2nd,

The fuel filter was black and hideously dirty, shocking liquid came out of it, surprised it didnt burn out the fuel pump actually. Whilst i had the fuel pump assembly out i cleaned it up carefully and rubber greased all the seals.

I also lightly flushed the tank.

I bought some soft neoprene slip on handlebar grips for 25$ and slipped them over the stock grips and thats made it feel a lot more comfortable too, it has eliminated quite a bit of vibration and feels much better now. This was a good investment.

Only thing i havent done is check valve shims yet, il wait till it hits 13,000 kms that should be fine, the bike starts and runs beautifully, but i had to let it idle for 5 mins as the battery was disconnected for a few days, and the new fuel filter would be flowing more petrol now too i imagine, it lets the ecu re tune.

I must say the front end feels like its tracking really well with the fork oil mix and recondition i did, from all the comments on 696 forks ive read online, i thought it would be average, but it feels actually pretty damn good.

Even my brother, whose a better more experienced rider than me said it felt great to him, the roads down here are pretty damn shabby too.

We took a huge risk buying a 6 yr old bike with no service history, no books, unregistered & 1 key and shamefully neglected to boot, but, its turned out to be a fantastic motorbike after some tlc.

Its a ripper!!!

My bro and i LOve it. We are blessed to get a lovely bike so cheap. It will be road registered on friday, i cant wait hehe, i must have put 50+ hrs into this bike to get it properly sorted, the roadworthy didnt require anything, they passed it first look. How good is that!!?

safe riding/
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