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09-29-2017 02:19 AM
fch99 Well - I finally got around to installing the new generator and adapter - but then started an oil change and realized that i got the wrong crush washer - been back three times and keep getting wrong ones... the parts manual must be off for the 1100S engine.

Anyway, I need fork service and a valve job. Don't really have the desire to do it all myself lol.

Probably looking at $1,000 to do it all I guess. Haven't ridden the bike in six months... damn.

Parting it out is starting to look like a possible option.
08-28-2016 12:06 AM
fch99
Obd2

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It appears the Fiat 3-pin OBD2 adapter that is appropriate for *my* '07 S2R 1000 only brings out the K and L lines (pins 7 and 15), which are for the older ISO9141 (pre-CAN) implementation of OBD2. The CAN hi and low lines are on different pins in the ODB2 connector (6 and 14, respectively). I'll try to probe my adapter this week and confirm, but I'm pretty sure our bikes are not CAN. I think it'll be feasible to reverse-engineer how GuzziDiag is talking to the bike using the 3-pin adapter, however.
So, I have an iPhone and the device I ordered works with Android, so far no luck even seeing it in a Bluetooth discovery. I tried the device on my car too - same result. Have to try with my laptop next. Maybe tomorrow...
08-21-2016 03:09 PM
bshinn
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That fender looks sharp. Where'd you get it? I've got an SBK fender on mine, but it doesn't have the hole in it, and it looks a bit too smooth and bulbous for the S2R, but it *does* protect the fork lowers.
It's identical to mine and mine came from Slingshot Racing. Listed as fitting a 748/916. Shaved a full pound off the plastic stocker.
08-17-2016 11:57 PM
fch99 Cool.

I'm waiting for this device to arrive and will try a few apps to start.

JPDiag uses the serial line, but said this sort of thing should be done on the can bus specifically mentioning 5am ECU - just another data point.

There's also a few arduino implementations that have been done, but none with s2r's that I've found. GaugeFace for Harley did the same, but is out of business apparently.
08-17-2016 03:00 PM
blalor It appears the Fiat 3-pin OBD2 adapter that is appropriate for *my* '07 S2R 1000 only brings out the K and L lines (pins 7 and 15), which are for the older ISO9141 (pre-CAN) implementation of OBD2. The CAN hi and low lines are on different pins in the ODB2 connector (6 and 14, respectively). I'll try to probe my adapter this week and confirm, but I'm pretty sure our bikes are not CAN. I think it'll be feasible to reverse-engineer how GuzziDiag is talking to the bike using the 3-pin adapter, however.
08-17-2016 02:44 PM
fch99
CANbus

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Could you share that link? Might have to obfuscate it to get past the forum overlords…

I had the impression that only the newer ECUs were CAN, not the ones used on the S2R. But I'd love to be wrong!
Pretty sure that it was required by the time that S2R's were delivered, and I have some indications from error codes in GuzziDiag that there are CANbus messages flowing on my mixed up bike. Have a read through the following and let me know what you think.

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/44-multi...bluetooth.html

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/44-multi...-decoding.html

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=813963652
08-17-2016 02:25 PM
blalor Could you share that link? Might have to obfuscate it to get past the forum overlords…

I had the impression that only the newer ECUs were CAN, not the ones used on the S2R. But I'd love to be wrong!
08-17-2016 12:31 PM
fch99
Obd2

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I tried using a wifi obd2 adapter with the Lonelec 3-pin-to-obd cable and didn't have any real luck. The Monster's ECU doesn't seem to speak the same PIDs as a car. Maybe that's already a solved problem? I haven't done any further research.
Not sure whether this will work the way I am trying. I've done some research and decided to see if this easy way will work first. If not there are other ways. Some of the software allows you to map your own PIDs, and some guys in D.ms created a google doc showing various Duc models PID mappings. They and others have created arduino-based solutions that definitely work, but would require a lot more work. Lastly, to get it right, I'll probably have to develop a mobile app that shows exactly what I want on it...

It's got to be a highly desireable mod across the board, I would think?
08-17-2016 06:17 AM
blalor I tried using a wifi obd2 adapter with the Lonelec 3-pin-to-obd cable and didn't have any real luck. The Monster's ECU doesn't seem to speak the same PIDs as a car. Maybe that's already a solved problem? I haven't done any further research.
08-17-2016 12:38 AM
fch99 Hmmmm

OBD2 Bluetooth-> https://lonelec.co.uk/index.php?rout...&product_id=57



No need for the cluster anymore, just an iPhone App. Also gets all other apps on the dash - maps, music, much much more. Remove lots of wires.

Combine with motogadget m-unit, m-button, m-lock - remove many more wires. Clean.
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