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12-29-2016 08:25 AM
savaship
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Originally Posted by 1UglyBastard View Post
personally, it's still not enough for my peace of mind. I want a good 180 miles before the reserve comes on, and an additional 40 miles after that. that way i can wander off the beaten path for longer periods of time. with the Monster, I have to stay closer to civilization. I've wanted to do a road trip to Fairbanks from South Louisiana, but I've heard that gas stations are so spread out up there that the Monster is probably a bad idea. I'll have to get another bike for that trip.
If I were going that far out, I would REALLY want to carry a 5 gallon NATO jerry can with me... I'd also want to put a luggage rack on, and the ventura 30lb limit one is just not good enough for a 32lb 5 gallon filled can. I'm planning to get my monster "toured out" so that I can carry a tent, sleeping bag, extra fuel, and still have 2 side bags for clothes and essentials. I have a design for a universal tube fitting that will screw in where the high exhaust mounts on the 796. It's going to function as passenger grab handles when nothing is in them, but have fittings for tubes so I can weld up a luggage rack that quick thumb screws in and out. I love riding the thing so much! I'll post pictures if I ever get enough spare cash to do it.

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By looking at the "fuelly" figures, I would say the difference is roughly 10%.
I don't trust fuelly very much at all, specifically on motorcycles. On the highway, my monster gets 49-51mpg, and fuelly would have you think that's not possible. In town, I've never gotten lower than 44mpg, but fuelly shows guys getting 27mpg!? how is that possible other than being a hooligan and reporting your hooligan milage to fuelly? I never figure my hooligan milage into normal riding... I did a nice stint off-road this summer through forest trails on private land... handles surprisingly well... still got more than 35mpg off road, but I put more miles on last year than all 4 2013 models reported to fuelly in total.
12-29-2016 07:25 AM
1UglyBastard
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Originally Posted by LeFraussie View Post
When it comes to fuel range, we need to make the distinction between the 1100 and 1100EVO. Not only the EVO has a smaller tank but is also missing the dual spark engine. Dual spark improves fuel consumption and this is confirmed in the real world by "fuelly.com" where most riders achieve better mileage on the DS1100. By looking at the "fuelly" figures, I would say the difference is roughly 10%.
personally, it's still not enough for my peace of mind. I want a good 180 miles before the reserve comes on, and an additional 40 miles after that. that way i can wander off the beaten path for longer periods of time. with the Monster, I have to stay closer to civilization. I've wanted to do a road trip to Fairbanks from South Louisiana, but I've heard that gas stations are so spread out up there that the Monster is probably a bad idea. I'll have to get another bike for that trip.
12-28-2016 11:15 PM
LeFraussie
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Beautiful bike @LeFraussie
Thanks @Monster795!
I did spend some time getting it the way I wanted but I think I'm done with mods (for now
It's mostly paint and bolt-ons unlike your Draxter build which I can't wait to see finished!

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When I was first considering buying a monster, I really wanted an 1100, but the extra inch of seat height (I'm super short) and low fuel economy were my main reasons not to. You just confirmed the fuel economy on the 1100 is as big an issue as I thought.
When it comes to fuel range, we need to make the distinction between the 1100 and 1100EVO. Not only the EVO has a smaller tank but is also missing the dual spark engine. Dual spark improves fuel consumption and this is confirmed in the real world by "fuelly.com" where most riders achieve better mileage on the DS1100. By looking at the "fuelly" figures, I would say the difference is roughly 10%.
12-28-2016 12:04 PM
savaship
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Originally Posted by 1UglyBastard View Post
who offers trip insurance? i may look into that.
I use TravelGuard. They do single trip insurance, and I called them before posting this to make sure I didn't use their plan inappropriately before... good news, I didn't. The only downside is that if you're travelling to do a track-day, that's an exception to most insurance policies, so the rule is, it's great for trips, not great for trips involving motorsports. There's also a company that "looks" more tailored to motorcycles, but the coverages seem the same as travelguard called roamright, the exception is that roamright has a hazardous sports waiver to their policy so you can still go to a track-day if you get enhanced coverage. Here's the link on that: http://www.roamright.com/travel-type...rip-insurance/
12-28-2016 11:30 AM
1UglyBastard
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Thank you so much for that! I took several trips on my M796 this summer that were more than 600 miles in a single day. When I was first considering buying a monster, I really wanted an 1100, but the extra inch of seat height (I'm super short) and low fuel economy were my main reasons not to. You just confirmed the fuel economy on the 1100 is as big an issue as I thought. On my 796 the fuel light goes on at 125miles, and on a road trip where I'm cruising at a sane speed the fuel economy is almost 50mpg which means I can "push it" to about 170... my hard reserve is to stop as close to 150 as possible, I have a small half gallon metal tank with me in case I miscalculate. I also now carry a spare charged li-ion battery in case something goes awry.

Now I am just going to repeat the things everyone said already: plan it out. Bring emergency supplies (water, tools, battery, tire patch kit, any small spare parts). I highly recommend buying trip insurance (usually costs me $35 for a 1200 mile 4 day round trip), you can even get a free tow package with some of them. If some driver hits you on the road (or you mess up yourself) the medical coverage on the trip insurance will cover the gap so you don't have to pay out of pocket until the insurance companies stop arguing with each other, plus if you get hit, your trip gets refunded, and when you get out of the hospital they'll pay your airfare home.
who offers trip insurance? i may look into that.
12-28-2016 08:27 AM
savaship
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Originally Posted by 1UglyBastard View Post
I have the M1100 and the thing I hate most is the short range. I can only get about 100-110 highway miles before I have to start looking for gas. So if I want to do a 600 mile day, that's 5 stops, each taking me 10-15 minutes, adding up to an hour or more of commute time.
Thank you so much for that! I took several trips on my M796 this summer that were more than 600 miles in a single day. When I was first considering buying a monster, I really wanted an 1100, but the extra inch of seat height (I'm super short) and low fuel economy were my main reasons not to. You just confirmed the fuel economy on the 1100 is as big an issue as I thought. On my 796 the fuel light goes on at 125miles, and on a road trip where I'm cruising at a sane speed the fuel economy is almost 50mpg which means I can "push it" to about 170... my hard reserve is to stop as close to 150 as possible, I have a small half gallon metal tank with me in case I miscalculate. I also now carry a spare charged li-ion battery in case something goes awry.

Now I am just going to repeat the things everyone said already: plan it out. Bring emergency supplies (water, tools, battery, tire patch kit, any small spare parts). I highly recommend buying trip insurance (usually costs me $35 for a 1200 mile 4 day round trip), you can even get a free tow package with some of them. If some driver hits you on the road (or you mess up yourself) the medical coverage on the trip insurance will cover the gap so you don't have to pay out of pocket until the insurance companies stop arguing with each other, plus if you get hit, your trip gets refunded, and when you get out of the hospital they'll pay your airfare home.
12-28-2016 05:26 AM
Rosso Classico Touring on a monster...of course it can be done, have will (and money), will travel as they say in my part of the world

It's a naked bike so yes, you don't have wind protection and the storage thing (or lack of it) can be a problem but there's always ways around that, a good tail bag or saddle bags is all that's needed really (and an iron butt)...

I frequently visited the Balkans with my 796, always solo and a 13lt tailbag and 40lt backpack would suit me just fine for a week long stay.
I'm 100% with LeFraussie, the Monster (the previous gen at least) worked wonders as a touring bike, loved the riding position as it wasn't that upright or too leaned, meaning, in a tucked position the lack of wind protection wasn't a problem (at least for me/my frame) plus, you wouldn't put much strain on your back (compared to a bike with a more upright riding position), really, for me it was perfect and i miss it comparing it to my now 1200S which is way more upright.

Riding with a 40lt backpack for 800+Km's a day...yes, it can be somewhat tiresome (and not that safe in case of a get-off) but, that's where (good) physical condition comes into play, also, properly adjusting the backpack's straps as to have it basically resting on your back and not having it dragging you down/back is also a must.
Fuel range can be an issue though, i keep reading about 300+ Kms of range and...don't know how that's even possible (hi LeFraussie ! ), longest i've done on my 796 is about 250Km on 1 tank (13.5lt tank) and that would be while riding within legal limits (130Km/h max with some 170km/h quick bursts).Basically, whenever i'm travelling, i make sure to refill at around the 200Km mark on my odometer as to not have any "surprises" regarding fuel.
Longest i've been on my bike was about 11 hours and 800+spare change Km's (passed by 2 countries) and i came out just fine, no problems whatsoever, Monaroman68 gives some pretty good advice in his post, some on-the-spot jogging after/before reaching a fuel station, a break to take a leak/drink some fluids/have a cig help, but, they do add up to to the total travel time obviously (like Ugly Bastard mentioned).

I still remember my last trip to the Balkans...full leather gear, 38-39 degrees Celsius with the friggin' 40lt bag on my back... i was s-w-e-a-t-i-n-g like a mofo, must have gobbled about 2+lt of fluids on that stop, hey, at least i gave a good show to the tourists getting off that bus in their t-shirts and flip-flops, they must have freaked out and most probably turned off any potential riders from that group from riding , i mean, why travel by bike and get sweaty like a pig, getting dehydrated etc etc when you just can travel by car/bus/plane ? Well, part of the fun i guess...

I'm actually curious to see how the 1200S will behave as the riding position is more upright, although, it is more comfy in general compared to the 796, plus, the longer wheelbase will be better on high speeds on those long straights.Fuel consumption is going to be a drag though as the 1200 just loves to drink-up the good ol' gasoline, it's a 1200 motor though so that's to be expected.

I'm planning a trip to Croatia for next Summer so i'll just have to wait and see i suppose...

Cheerio
12-27-2016 11:06 PM
Monster795 Beautiful bike @LeFraussie
12-27-2016 08:50 PM
LeFraussie I have been touring (sealed road only) around Australia on my Monster 1100S for a few years and I'm loving it.
I really should have bought a Multistrada but I can't stand the look.

With bar raisers and properly sorted suspension, the bike is comfortable for long distance. Stock the Monster 1100S is way too stiff and quite uncomfortable on less than perect roads.

Fuel range wise, I get between 300-325kms before empty which is on par with what my friends on Multi 1200 get.
I've got the model without ABS, so my tank is slightly larger at 15L (tank capacity is reduced to 13.5L for M696/796/1100 with ABS).
Luggage wise, side panniers give you 2x14L, Tail bag 18L and tank bag another 14L. More than enough space to carry gear for a couple of weeks.

The Monster is the jack of all trades and if there is a will there is a way. After all, in Tassie I have met people touring Australia on Postie bikes (Honda CT110)!!
12-27-2016 05:51 PM
1UglyBastard I have the M1100 and the thing I hate most is the short range. I can only get about 100-110 highway miles before I have to start looking for gas. So if I want to do a 600 mile day, that's 5 stops, each taking me 10-15 minutes, adding up to an hour or more of commute time.

Because of this, if I have a time frame, I take my Ninja 300 which gives me twice the range, requiring half the stops.

I also have a universal tail bag to carry everything I need (I pack light), most importantly my tools.

I camp if it's a longer ride or sleep on benches at truck stops if I just have to catch up on sleep.

To save time, I plan bathroom breaks and meals around gas stops. If I just need to stretch my legs, I stand on my pegs and lean forward on the bars a bit.

Longest single day I've done is around 650 miles on the ninja, 450 miles on the monster. If I can invent some kind of simple way to feed fuel to my tank while riding, I'll take the monster on more trips.
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