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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 12-04-2016, 12:21 AM Thread Starter
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899 or 959 as entry level superbike?

Ducati just released the 959 which doesn't appeal to me as much as the Panigale 899.
I am thinking about getting a second hand 899 for random street use aka some midnight runs and more of a track beast
The 1299 seems too much to handle for me. I am not that of an experienced driver to handle all the HP properly. Would love to take some 'racing classes' but they don't offer them anywhere near me. Not even at the track I am planning on using.

Does the 899 make a decent 'entry-level' track bike or should I go for the 959 which just hit the market?

I know this is the Monster forum and I love my Monsters as much as the next guy, but I really like to start spending my weekends on the track and prefer to stay with a Ducati and not branch out to a R1 or something like that.

The 899 can be had for 50% off the sticker as second hand bike and will probably slide on the floor a couple of time - just being realistic. So should I go with an 899 or even lower like 848 and so on?

Don't get me wrong, I know how to ride, I just don't trust myself with a 200HP superbike in tight corners on the track.

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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 12-04-2016, 05:28 AM
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899 sounds like a smarter buy. With the money you save, get some racing plastics before you hit the track and see if they make some race rails or other solid protection.
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Riding a superbike is significantly more different than riding a standard. When I ride my Monster it's like I'm riding in my motorcycle, when I ride my 899 it's as if I'm ontop of it. The riding feel alone should let you lean towards the Panigale series. Sticking to Duc's is a good thing, the one thing Ducati nails right is making a big bike feel narrow with their V2 (L2) power plants. It makes riding I4, V4, H2's feel like riding a fat cow instead of a race horse. : )

The Panigale's are much more comfortable than the 848/1098/1198 series motorcycles. I personally think the 959 is a better buy than the 899 because of the 2 piece magnesium clutch cover and the slipper clutch. These two changes are worthy additions to the price badge.

If you're going to run the 899, use the clutch case cover protection because the 899 has a single piece clutch cover. It's a $667 part to replace vs the cover on the 959 which is just over $100 to replace in an accident. Not including labor.

The 959 will also let you use 1199/1299 frame sliders for this reason, but T-Rex racing also makes a cool frame slider that mounts on your clutch case and the 959/1199/1299 's don't get to use this option. It's kinda neat. : )

I personally prefer the looks of the 899/1199 over the 959/1299. That's just me. It's a great bike, go get one!

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The 899 is harder to ride on some circuits due to the narrow power band compared to the inline 4s in the same class. That said, I am sticking with my 899 for the track at least for now.
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I have both a M1200R and a 959. I agree with @Panic about the ride. They are totally different. If you're getting a steep discount on the 899, I'd go with that and use the $$$ difference for tires and other mods and repairs.

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Thanks a lot for your input guys! I will go for the 899 and like @DarR mentioned , spent the difference on mods.
I never left a bike stock but the Panigale is really one of a kind which leaves me sort of thinking WHAT to do..
If everything works out, I will pick up a 899 over the weekend, get a new set of tires on Monday and I certainly plan on changing the exhaust.
Not a fan of the thermis or the stock so something new has to come. Leaning towards Akrapovich or Austin Racing if AR makes them for the 899.
Good experience with both companies, so any input on mods is very welcome. Just nothing that takes longer than a day to modify as I already got the monster into pieces for the custom built.

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There are many mods for the Panigale that's for sure. One that note, Your very first mod should be throttle spacers.
It also the cheapest mod you'll make and it's the one that will give you the biggest bang for your bucks. http://www.panigalespacers.com/

Be sure to follow both of these forums for ideas and suggestions:
http://www.899panigale.org
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@Monster795
There are many mods for the Panigale that's for sure. One that note, Your very first mod should be throttle spacers.
It also the cheapest mod you'll make and it's the one that will give you the biggest bang for your bucks. http://www.panigalespacers.com/

Be sure to follow both of these forums for ideas and suggestions:
http://www.899panigale.org
http://www.959panigale.net
This is blasphemy. Every response to a "what should my first Ducati mod be" must be at least a $2000 mod.

My vote is in for Magnesium Clutch case + Clear Clutch Cover with Ducabike Slipper clutch.

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LMAO................

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2nd most important mod for me: short Pazzo levers or quality equivalent.
P.S. my garage has listed all the mods I've done.

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