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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-28-2015, 09:48 AM Thread Starter
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Was this a good deal?

Just picked up my first Monster yesterday, it seemed like a good deal to me but kinda wanted to know what you experts think.

2005 S4r 5000 miles. 1 owner, obviously not riden much. Picked it up for 5k out the door. Never downed, all stock, routine maintenance so far.

My second question is, seeing as the bike has not been riden too frequently (5k miles in 10 years, what should my checklist look like. Other than fluids and most likely fresh tires? Thanks for the help.
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New timing belts if they're older than 2 years.

Looks like you got a good deal.
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$5k is spot on. That's the going rate for a clean one like yours. Not a super deal, but definitely a good deal.

Belts, battery, tires, fluids, insurance, helmet, jacket, gloves, boots, ride it.

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Nice bike!

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Red, one owner, 5k miles, never down, '05 S4R? Hard to find. A lot of people don't put as much value in one owner, low miles vehicles as maybe you and I do, but in my view, it's a better than an average deal.

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Red, one owner, 5k miles, never down, '05 S4R? Hard to find. A lot of people don't put as much value in one owner, low miles vehicles as maybe you and I do, but in my view, it's a better than an average deal.
I've always been of the mindset that one owner (a responsible one) is always best. Mainly because it's easier to keep track of maintenance history.

So far I've just been tinkering and familiarizing myself with Ducati, seeing as it's my first one.

My brother has a 1098s and Hyper 1100 Evo Corsa so I'm not completely foreign but to where I'd like to be.

So far all I've done is and oil change and brake fluid change. I looked at the timing belts and they look to be in above average condition. No cracks, discoloring, or abnormal wear. Do you guys think they should still be changed right away as the bike just turned over 5k miles?
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I looked at the timing belts and they look to be in above average condition. No cracks, discoloring, or abnormal wear. Do you guys think they should still be changed right away as the bike just turned over 5k miles?
Belts are a funny thing. Sometimes they fail even though they look fine. Most of the time when they look fine they are fine, and waiting until 6000 mile service might not be a terrible choice. At the same time, replacing 11 year old belts (assuming the bike was built in late '04) is never a bad decision. If it were me, I'd change them.

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That's the way I was leaning. The belts probably aren't something I would feel comfortable tackling my self. Any idea of what that service usually costs?
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Ducati should have a specified number of labor hours that dealers should adhere to for regular service intervals. If you get a full 6000 mile service, you can call a few dealers and ask them how many hours of labor will be charged to you. I have read stories of people getting told varying number of hours labor for the same service interval, as unscrupulous dealers may try to over bill. For individual service items that are not interval based (like belts only), it would likely be up to each dealer to determine the labor amount, as I don't think Ducati provides suggested labor hours for individual items (someone correct me if I'm wrong). You could ask a few dealers how many hours they bill for belt change.

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My local dealer has basically a set price from the Ducati manual for hours of labor to bill. The issue becomes when you ask for a specific quote for a complete service.

It is far easier to quote an air cooled 2v than a liquid cooled 4v. So my dealer breaks it down to X hours for belt replacement and then X price to inspect the valves. From there the price ranges drastically for the amount of valves, and which valves, need shimming. I think it's 15 minutes plus the cost of the shim for openers and 30 minutes plus shim for closers. So at the worst it could be 1 hour extra plus 4 shims for openers and 2 hours and 4 shims for closers. So when my dealer says your S4RS can run anywhere from $700-1,200 depending upon what actually needs to be done. That includes an oil and filter change, belt swap, coolant change, brake and clutch fluid change and valve inspection for around $700-800 then up to an additional $400 if all 8 valves need to be worked over. The price is a little more difficult to nail down. I've been told that on average 2 valves out of the 8 need to be shimmed properly and that the "average" price is around $900-1,000 for everything.


If you still have an extra couple of dollars burning a hole in your pocket you should ask to have your cams "degreed" when doing the belts. My interpretation is that there is a bit of play in the camshaft and gear and that there is a permissible slop during the engine build. The mechanics have all assured me if the gear and cam are off a bit, dialing this in to "zero" will really wake up the engine and attitude.

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06 Paul Smart Sport Classic NFS ever.
08 S4RS Tricolore #081 NFS ever.
The pink Monster has moved away.
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72 Norton Commando 750
03 KX60 with S4R rear shock,Honda CB350F, Hodaka Ace90, 3x Yam-YGS1, Yam-CS3 200, Vespa small frame, Gilera 106, Puch Sabre, Puch 50 Boy Racer, Benelli 250, Benelli 360, Honda CB350T, and many more.

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