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post #21 of 33 (permalink) Old 09-23-2015, 08:04 PM
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Oh and I forgot, no cell phone mount.
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Great, so you'll take your money and buy something much better looking and air-cooled. Let's see, that would be a Moto Guzzi or a Harley or any one of dozens of air-cooled naked bikes available.
No, I'd buy an older monster, like I did, 2009 1100S. Or if I really want 150+hp I'd buy a Panigale. Which I almost did.
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Nope.............Instead of just following the trend I'll build what I want:

https://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/...me-m620ie.html

Should end up around 350# semi-wet and about 100-105 RWHP. Best part.......all for around $6.5-7K.

Only problem is.......no traction control, ABS or other fancy electronic BS. So you actually have to RIDE it instead of operate it.

Feel free to flame on......
Well, building it yourself is the best way to get what you want. I question, however, some of your numbers. The only way you'll get 100-105 RWHP is to go big in displacement, plus high-compression pistons, head porting and free-flow intake/exhaust. I'm not sure what "semi-wet" means, but 350# is a very aggressive goal.
How would I know this? I had a Ducati 750 race bike at about 85 HP and 325# and built an SS 944 street bike with 95 RWHP and 360# with all fluids except fuel. When all is said and done, however, my MV F3 675 is faster and handles better.
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Well, building it yourself is the best way to get what you want. I question, however, some of your numbers. The only way you'll get 100-105 RWHP is to go big in displacement, plus high-compression pistons, head porting and free-flow intake/exhaust. I'm not sure what "semi-wet" means, but 350# is a very aggressive goal.
How would I know this? I had a Ducati 750 race bike at about 85 HP and 325# and built an SS 944 street bike with 95 RWHP and 360# with all fluids except fuel. When all is said and done, however, my MV F3 675 is faster and handles better.
This should help a little:



1000DS out of an S2R.

I haven't weighed it lately, but I have documented 36lbs that I have taken off, and it's still on the heavy 3 spoke Brembos. If Ducati was anywhere near honest with their published curb weight that puts me in the 360# range now.

350# is a lofty goal I know, and I have my doubts about reaching it with the cash I'm willing to spend, but 100+ RWHP is by no means out of reach with a 1000DS staying within my budget.

Still should be a helluva lot of fun when it's finished.
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Still should be a helluva lot of fun when it's finished.
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When all was said and done I took 50# off my 900SS, but it wasn't easy and it cost some bucks to do it. I'd include some pictures, but this website won't let me go over 19.5Kb for an attachment and mine are larger than that.
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This one is staying road legal, so I don't anticipate much more weight loss except for the wheels. Club president put a set of Carrozzeria V-Tracks and aluminum carrier rotors on his 1000SS and dropped 10#. I get that done I can see 350-360lbs with 1/2 tanks of fuel.
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I bought cast magnesium Marchesinis (when they were still available), but my front rotors were stock Brembos. I did, however, use a titanium rear brake rotor (I don't use the rear brake much) and a Ti rear shock spring.
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That's tempting but I don't think I could justify the cost. Who was the supplier for the spring & rotor?
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Yoyodyne for the spring (which worked great and saved 1 1/2 lbs), but I can't remember on the rotor.
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