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peregrine 10-21-2014 02:53 PM

Letters in model number meaning
 
New to Ducati, so a Noob question. What do the letters in the model numbers mean- For instance I just bought a s2r1000. The 2 is 2 valve the 1000 cc's. what do the s and r indicate? I tried search and came up without the info I am looking for.

3th3r 10-21-2014 03:21 PM

I always thought the "S" in the Monster S4 was for the "S"uperbike engine that was mated to the ST4 frame. The later S2 was pretty much the same bike as the S4, except for a smaller 2V engine, so the "S" designation was likely kept only for marketing purposes.

Or I could be totally wrong.

philb 10-21-2014 04:17 PM

The original Monsters were all designated "M", followed by the engine size (900, 750, 600, 620, 800, 1000). Later, some of the fuel injected models added an "ie" at the end.

A second generation, with single-sided swingarms was designed, and those were designated as "S" models, followed by a "2" or a "4" for the valves per cylinder, then an "R" on most models for marketing purposes. The S4 (916 engine) and S4R (996 engine) were left at that. The S2R models had the engine size (800 or 1000) further appended.

The third generation went back to "M" with engine size (696, 796, 1100).

As with anything Italian, special cases and additional inconsistencies will be found if you look.

PhilB

jduke 10-21-2014 04:47 PM


caferacermike 10-21-2014 08:34 PM

And then there "S" models as well. Those that end in S. Think "special" edition. Upgraded brakes, wheels, Ohlins suspension etc. I'm a fan of "S" models myself.

I'm also a huge fan of Ducati SS. Not the brown shirts, Super Sports. 900SS or even 1000SC, AKA Sport Classic. The nice thing about the Sport Classic was that it came with the 1000DS motor. The same year Hypers came with the 1100DS motor, basically a bored out 1000. The DS is "dual spark". Ain't it fun? Probably like learning English as a second language since well English doesn't make much sense at all.

peregrine 10-22-2014 06:11 AM

Thanks for the help. I thought there would be some system to help me more about the bikes as I read the forums trying to learn more. 10 years ago when I bought my first BMW I didn't ask and it took a long time of reading forums and magazines to figure it out. I picked up the bike and took it for a quick 50 mile ride last night. Hard to believe it is mine.

DenverDucati 10-22-2014 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peregrine (Post 2771697)
Thanks for the help. I thought there would be some system to help me more about the bikes as I read the forums trying to learn more. 10 years ago when I bought my first BMW I didn't ask and it took a long time of reading forums and magazines to figure it out. I picked up the bike and took it for a quick 50 mile ride last night. Hard to believe it is mine.

You picked a good bike! It's funny you say that about BMWs. I would like a F650GS at some point in the future, or wait maybe it's a G650GS or wait...I'm so confused by the BMW vernacular! I think the first is a two cylinder and the latter is a single, right? Do you have a quick guide to decoding BMW models? :D

peregrine 10-22-2014 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverDucati (Post 2771881)
You picked a good bike! It's funny you say that about BMWs. I would like a F650GS at some point in the future, or wait maybe it's a G650GS or wait...I'm so confused by the BMW vernacular! I think the first is a two cylinder and the latter is a single, right? Do you have a quick guide to decoding BMW models? :D

Good grief :eek:, I almost decided to answer this then gave up almost as quick. Actually Wikipedia has it mapped out pretty well. What really drives me nuts is BMW had a loyal fan base devoted to the 650 aprilla rotax single then played with the nomenclature and where it was manufactured so much. Then to top it off they build what appears to be a really good parallel twin 800cc and offer a "detuned to 650cc" version. WTF??? Then reuse the model number from the f650 single instead of giving the parallel twin it's own letter designation??? I still really am impressed by my f650 "classic" the carburated first version. It has over 60,000 miles on it. 40,000 by me over the last 7 years and only maintenance stuff done to it. I am thinking of giving it a thorough go through, and riding it to Alaska in a couple years.

DenverDucati 10-23-2014 12:13 PM

Good call on the wiki:

BMW Motorrad motorcycles are categorized into product families, and each family is assigned a different letter prefix. The current families are:

C series – Maxi-scooters called Urban Mobility Vehicles by BMW
F series – parallel-twin engines of 798 cc capacity, featuring either chain or belt drive. Models are F650GS, F700GS, F800GS, F800R, F800S, F800GT and F800ST.
G series – single-cylinder engines of 449 to 652 cc capacity featuring chain drive. Models are G450X (now discontinued), G650GS, G650 Sertão, G650 Xmoto, G650 Xchallenge and G650 Xcountry. The 450 cc engines are manufactured by Kymco in Taiwan.[14] The 2009 and 2010 650 cc engine parts were manufactured by Rotax in Austria, with the engine being assembled by Loncin Holdings, Ltd in China.[15][16]
R series – twin-cylinder boxer engines of 1,170 cc capacity featuring shaft drive. Models are R1200GS, R1200R, R1200RT, R1200S and R nineT.
K series – four-cylinder engines of 1,157 to 1,649 cc capacity featuring shaft drive. Models are K1200LT, K1300GT, K1300R and K1300S. In 2011, BMW Motorrad launched the six-cylinder 1,649 cc K1600GT and K1600GTL.[10]
S1000RR – sport bike with transverse-mounted, 999 cc inline-four engine.


Just curious, do you know makes the G650GS Sertão better for off road than the other models? I've seen that in a couple places, but it's hard for me to tell what's different about it other than the accessories. There's a nice one local to me that I think I'd like to go take a look at.

DenverDucati 10-23-2014 12:43 PM

Think I just answered my own question about the G650GS Sertão. Looks like it has a 21" front wheel, and they're spoked instead of cast, suspension travel is 1.5" longer, and a few other things. Sorry to get off topic! :)


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