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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 06-04-2008, 05:46 PM Thread Starter
 
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How important is the CODE CARD compared to the RED KEY?

Hi guys,

I was just wondering how important is the CODE CARD? I just recently purchased a used Monster but the previous owner did not (or forgot to give me the CODE CARD). He did give me both the 2 black keys and the 1 red key with the tag.

He did mention that the RED key is the most important key and to never lose it. It is used to start the bike and reset the computer if ever the battery gets drained or the bike wouldn't start.

Now I've tried to do a little bit of research and according to my knowledge so far, the CODE CARD (or code) is needed to disable the IMMOBILIZER through the throttle twist grip? And the RED key is used to reset the computer and immobilizer when the battery is replaced or the engine wouldn't start?

So technically, you only need the CODE CARD to completely disable the IMMOBILIZER?
Please correct me if I'm wrong...

So how important is the CODE CARD if you have the RED KEY? Thanks.

PS: If I'd like to get a new code card..would that be possible? Thanks in advance for your help!
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post #2 of 17 (permalink) Old 06-11-2008, 10:23 PM
 
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you need the code card for the code to disable the immobilizer...in case your keys dont work...you CANNOT completely disable the immobilizer...you need to perform the code input everytime you start the car...

and the mechanical code for cutting keys

RED key is THE MOST IMPORTANT!!!!...you can reset the keys with red key and reprogram new black keys with red key...
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post #3 of 17 (permalink) Old 10-07-2008, 09:07 PM
 
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ok, my question is (i hear all different stories), when will i ever need or use the red key or code card? i have two black keys and can make all the copies i want for 15 bucks down the street so i'm not worried about losing them or needing a red key to make one cause you don't need one for that. is there any SPECIFIC thing you do to the bike that you need one or the other for or are they more of a "incase of emerency" tool?

do i need one or the other if:

i disconnect the battery?

go in for service?

disassemble and reassemble?
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post #4 of 17 (permalink) Old 10-09-2008, 09:59 AM
 
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RED key is for reprogramming black keys...if you have a Ducs that has engine immobilizer

you can copy the black keys but you need to reprogram them to the engine transponder or else your engine wont start...

the key card is used when your transponder for some reason stops repsonding to your programmed keys and you don't have the RED key available immediately (say on a road trip)...the catch is you need to "punch in" the code every time you start the bike and entering the code is a lengthy procress (looks stupid when you are twisting throttle repeatedly on the side of the street)

for some ppl buying a bike without a RED key and code card is a deal breaker...though rare...it cost thousands to replace the engine computer and the keys if your black keys stop working




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ok, my question is (i hear all different stories), when will i ever need or use the red key or code card? i have two black keys and can make all the copies i want for 15 bucks down the street so i'm not worried about losing them or needing a red key to make one cause you don't need one for that. is there any SPECIFIC thing you do to the bike that you need one or the other for or are they more of a "incase of emerency" tool?

do i need one or the other if:

i disconnect the battery?

go in for service?

disassemble and reassemble?
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post #5 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-11-2010, 11:18 PM
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this bites

oh wow.. i just bought a ducati and all i got with it was one black key.. how hard is it going to be to get extras and another code card?
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post #6 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-12-2010, 05:58 PM
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I Just bought an 09 1100 and the dealer gave me a code card and 2 black keys have they stopped using the red keys? should I be asking for one?

also as a side note most dealers will retain a copy of you code card (with your permission) just incase.
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post #7 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-12-2010, 06:03 PM
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red keys are history on new bikes
08 hyper didnt come with them either.

bikes 01 and earlier didnt have any immobilizer key stuff
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post #8 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-12-2010, 08:04 PM
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ok, my question is (i hear all different stories), when will i ever need or use the red key or code card? i have two black keys and can make all the copies i want for 15 bucks down the street so i'm not worried about losing them or needing a red key to make one cause you don't need one for that. is there any SPECIFIC thing you do to the bike that you need one or the other for or are they more of a "incase of emerency" tool?
You need the red key for every service and for anything that involves the ignition or the dash. Not having the red key will seriously devalue the bike, many people just won't buy it from you.

If you make copies of the black keys at a hardware store they will not start the bike, there's a computer chip in the standard keys son. You need the red key to make proper copies.

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post #9 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-12-2010, 10:44 PM
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I'm up in Toronto Canada. When I first picked up my used 2007 S4R the previous owner could not find the code card. I called the dealer he originally brought it from and they do not keep any records of codes or keys. I then called Ducati North America and they told me the same. I also called Ducati Head Quarters in Italy they told me the same no one keeps records and once its lost its lost. Long story short the previous owner found the card and I stopped sweating it. I made a copy and keep it in a safe place. I also made digital copies so that they can be emailed if I'm out on a road trip and don't have the card with me.
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post #10 of 17 (permalink) Old 08-30-2010, 03:44 PM
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I have a 2009 696 and I dont have a red key....i have the plastic card that came with bike but lost both my black keys...is there any solution other then spend 3k on the ducati dealership...please help me....im very sad right now
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