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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 03-08-2014, 05:23 PM Thread Starter
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Shorai vs Ballistic

About two months ago I was shopping around for a lithium battery for my 796 and picked up the 8 cell Ballistic for 169$(I think). My factory battery was still performing well, but I was looking for a quick way to shed some weight and try some newer technology. It is significantly smaller and lighter than the factory battery and came with lots of foam to fill the battery box up for fitment on my bike. At first it started my bike with much more oomph and worked great.

Fast forward to about two weeks ago and I'm tired of the issues with getting my bike started. The battery seemed finicky at best and had been since about day two of having it installed. Turning my key to the On position everything would light up and seem fine until pressing the ignition switch, then everything would shut down or I'd get dead battery clicking. I'd repeat this a few times until the battery "warmed up" and finally it would start turning over, but would take a few more tries until firing. During all this, my instrument inputs would reset. My clock and trip would all be back to zeroes.

I pulled the battery and it still had 13.5v, checked the connections and reinstalled it. The same issues continued.

I decided to try a Shorai out. I picked up the LFX18A1-BS12 from a local shop for 189$. It's a quite a bit larger than the Ballistic and is actually pretty close the same size as the factory battery and I didn't have to use much foam to fill the box at all, it's also still considerably lighter than factory. It starts my bike first try every time and I haven't had to re-input anything into my instrument unit. Zero issues in two weeks.

TLR: I'm much more satisfied with Shorai over Ballistic and will update this after a bit more time with the Shorai.
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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 03-08-2014, 07:35 PM
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Do you keep the bike on a tender when stored? I've been kicking around battery options because, let's face it, it's only a matter of time before the stock battery gives up the ghost.

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I installed Shorai in my three bikes a couple of years ago. Still going great.

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My work schedule has me on a rotation 3 weeks at home for every 3 weeks away at work. One of the big selling points for a lithium battery is that I wouldn't have to keep it on a tender while away at work like the old lead battery. This may have been a contributing factor with the Ballistic failing, and I haven't been away from my bike long enough to see if any problems will come up with the Shorai.
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Do you keep the bike on a tender when stored? I've been kicking around battery options because, let's face it, it's only a matter of time before the stock battery gives up the ghost.
If you get a Shorai, you can use a battery maintainer. Just be sure you get the correct type. Basic "trickle" chargers can destroy a Shorai.

From Shorai website:
"Q. CAN I USE LEAD-ACID BATTERY CHARGERS OR CHARGER/TENDERS?
A.Yes. HOWEVER, you may NOT use a charger/tender if it has an automatic "desulfation mode", which cannot be turned off. We have confirmed with Deltran, makers of the "Battery Tender" brand, that their products do NOT have a desulfation mode, and are therefore OK for use with Shorai LFX, for example. But the best possible charger/tender for Shorai LFX is the SHO-BMS01. It uses the 5-pin BMS port in the LFX batteries, in order to monitor, diagnose, and balance the individual cells during charge. And it also has an optimized storage mode that will give the longest possible service life to your LFX. "
http://store.shoraipower.com/FAQ.html

I've used the Battery Tender Plus on each of my Shorai for two years with good results.

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My work schedule has me on a rotation 3 weeks at home for every 3 weeks away at work. One of the big selling points for a lithium battery is that I wouldn't have to keep it on a tender while away at work like the old lead battery. This may have been a contributing factor with the Ballistic failing, and I haven't been away from my bike long enough to see if any problems will come up with the Shorai.
Unfortunately, this "selling point" only applies if you have the battery out of the bike, or disconnected.
If you have the battery connected to your bike, it is going to get drained just like every other battery when you leave it for a few weeks.
There is a good explanation of lithium battery basics in this blog post:
http://www.fullspectrumpower.com/blo...ithium-battery
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I've left my Shorai batteries in my bikes over the winter with no tender for 4 to 5 months and they fire right up in the spring.

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+1,

Except mine are Ballistic 8cell. Haven't had a bit of issue out of the 3 I have.

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I have had my Shorai for 2 years. No issues.
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We have 09 KTM 990 Adventure R on shorai and never had problem either.
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