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Old 11-20-2012, 06:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default DP Termi ECU not working after install

Hi Guys,
I have just installed a Termi kit on my Monster 1100 Evo. I thought the install went very well except that when i turn the ignition key you do not hear the normal reset noise.The instrument panel lights up but thats it.The ECU is obviously not working as the bike will not start. Any ideas? have I installed the ECU incorrectly? is it faulty? or have I fried it? answers much appriciated before I call the Ducati delaer to collect the thing which I know is gonna cost me a shit load
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The termi system came direct from an Italian Ducati dealer.

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Old 11-20-2012, 07:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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First guess is that your key is not being recognized. I'll bet there is a procedure for unlocking the ECU using red keys or code cards.

Contact the seller immediately for advice.

There are others on here that did the install themselves and hopefully you will hear from them soon, or find them from your previous thread and send them a PM.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi Mike good advise as usual. I will send an email tonight.But hopefully some other guys will give me more clues as I also noticed traction control settings was missing from the menu.
You dont think I have stuffed the ECU somehow?I made sure the battery was disconnected before I changed the standard ECU for the new DP ECU.When I turn on the key "EU"(European) is displayed which is the same as my OEM ECU. So I am guessing the ECU is being recogmised somehow.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:43 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Oh boy, I have no idea really, but just the fact that you say the traction control is missing from the menu that makes me wonder right away if they didn't send you the wrong ECU, like for an older M1100.

Good luck though, hopefully you can work it out quickly.
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I have just noticed an error called CAN. In the manual it just says CAN line.Is this a poor electrical connection? maybe a bad earth?
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I read somewhere that you might not have a good connection beneath the ECU and the heat sink. You may need to scuff up the 2 pieces with some 3M green pad or light sand paper and place some special heat sink dielectric compound between them to help ensure a good ground as well as heat conductivity. You can find the stuff at any computer parts store.

Man I hope that works. The thread stated everything that happened in the order it happened and all events were one right after another, not days apart, and read as:

1. Riding home, bike started fine and ran well then complete loss of spark.

2. Engine would turn over and lights worked.

3. Engine stopped responding altogether.

4. CAN LINE error message appeared.

5. Called Dealer, Dealer recommended a tow home.

6. Tow specialist came out and could not get bike to start, CAN LINE error still displayed.

7. At home read a bunch of threads.

8. After deciding upon a course of action. Pulled ECU and noticed some oxidation between the ECU and heat sink. Lightly sanded base of ECU til shiny and sanded heat sink plate.

9. Tightened down the bolts that held them together.

10. Turned key on, no CAN LINE error displayed.

11. Hit starter button and the bike came to life.



He should have put some sort of grease in there to stop the oxidation from recurring. Not saying that your ECU or heat sink are all corroded but did you make sure they were absolutely spotless before joining them? Supposedly you lose the ground that powers the ECU if not making good contact. I've not done a full swap myself, again why I do feel Service Shops can have a benefit even if expensive, so I'm not sure what was involved in the ECU swap. But bad grounding seems to be a recurring problem with CAN LINE issues, along with melted wiring harnesses from other issues. Being that you did not mention letting the smoke out of the wires, keep that smoke in there it's what the electrons jump across to get the electricity to flow, I'd be leaning more towards a bad ground at the ECU. Even the screws/bolts holding it down might need a little attention. Basically just make sure any contacts you changed are in good order. Also check all around the engine to make sure you did not knock any wires loose, especially around the ground wire coming from the battery. Also make sure the battery connections are good and tight.
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:10 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Johnny5, you are right on the money.After speaking on the phone with a Ducati service tech it has been proved that the ECU is not the right one.As the ECU does not have DTC this causes a communication fault which results in the error CAN being displayed.CAN means communication problem.I also am of the opinion that the ECU is not a Ducati performance ECU as it does not display "ducati performance" after the ignition has been switched on. I reckon it's a stock ECU from an earlier model as Johnny has stated.Bye the way, I put my original ECU back in and is starts straight away,which again proves the ECU is the fault not my installation.pheeeeeewww.The good news is that the supplier in Italy appears to be doing everything he can to correct the problem.He has requested my local dealer contact details and will work with them and Ducati to fix the fault.so i expect to take the ECU to the local dealer who will confirm its incorrect and hopefully give me a replacement.What a f##kin hassle.
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Well that sucks! But at least it's not something worse (and broken). Hopefully they get you the correct one ASAP. When you get it settled, please post up how different the fueling of the bike feels from stock!
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Old 11-22-2012, 03:33 AM   #9 (permalink)
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The other thing I noticed about the incorrect ecu was that it had a hand written label instead of a typed label......not too proffessional for a genuine DP part? I wonder if this is a reflashed ecu? How do you tell the difference between a genuine ecu and a reflash?
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Old 12-23-2012, 05:26 AM   #10 (permalink)
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It took a month but all fixed now. Ducati replaced the ECU under international warrenty. Even though I purchased the kit direct from italy the local dealer here in sydney was instructed by Ducati to replace the ECU. It cost me noting but just took a while.i bought the kit from Ducati salerno delivered in aus for just $1400 .i recommend buying stuff from this company as they tried their best to fix This stuff up that was not there fault......as for the termis?are they worth it? If you have the money yes. The fueling issue has gone and the power delivery awesome, sounds great and look great. More power? Yes a bit more as the front wheel now lifts easier in 2nd gear,but you wou
D not spend that sort of money for an extra couple of ponnies. If you do buy gear from the EU On EBay don't forget you do not have to pay the 20 percent VAT that is included in the price IF you live outside the EU. So get them to relist on EBay minus the 20 percent.
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