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Anyone familiar w/ Beck 550 Spyder replica car? Is this a good car to get?


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Critics chatter endlessly about art imitating life, and vice versa, but how do they view an imitation that's even more popular than the authentic item? The Beck Spyder is one of those rare examples of a replica becoming worthy in its own right, nearly as respected as the original Porsche 550 it sought to emulate.

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Beck makes a great kit, it may be the best 550 kit on the market.

The thing with this kind of car is you really need to be able to work on it yourself or have a VERY competent VW mechanic nearby. A lot of the parts on it are VW but some come from Porsche and others are generic. Someone has to be able to tell the diference and replace them.

I have always wanted the 550 kit, thats why I painted my Karmann Ghia in the silver/red combo (james deans lil bastard).

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Beck makes a great kit, it may be the best 550 kit on the market.

The thing with this kind of car is you really need to be able to work on it yourself or have a VERY competent VW mechanic nearby. A lot of the parts on it are VW but some come from Porsche and others are generic. Someone has to be able to tell the diference and replace them.

I have always wanted the 550 kit, thats why I painted my Karmann Ghia in the silver/red combo (james deans lil bastard).
Yeah, the lil bastard was a nice ride.

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I've liked this kit since Car and Driver tested it some 15 years ago or so. I think they said something along the lines of, "getting on the throttle in a corner makes it want to swap ends. Suddenly lifting off the throttle in a corner makes it want to swap ends. Sitting still in a parking lot, makes it want to swap ends." Sounds like a great deal of fun though if you get it right
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I've liked this kit since Car and Driver tested it some 15 years ago or so. I think they said something along the lines of, "getting on the throttle in a corner makes it want to swap ends. Suddenly lifting off the throttle in a corner makes it want to swap ends. Sitting still in a parking lot, makes it want to swap ends." Sounds like a great deal of fun though if you get it right
Please explain, I'm not familiar with those terms.

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swap ends means spin out (front goes to where the back was and back goes to where the front came from).

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Do you have an aircooled vw or have you ever had one? preferably a modified one? I would sugest getting a Bug or ghia or a type 3, anything to get you familiar with the mechanics of it.

Oh a Porsche 914 would be good as well. The you can get a feel for the old Aircooled.

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A college has one of these things and yes, you need to know how to tinker with the thing, from what I hear when I chat with him it is more in the garage getting tinkered with than on the road... it is a money pit worse than a pool and boat together...

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Please explain, I'm not familiar with those terms.
"swap ends" is typically used to refer to snap oversteer. You go into a turn, and do ANYTHING out of the ordinary, and the rear end swings out suddenly. Bada-bing, car's a$$ end is now pointed in the direction of travel. Generally speaking, not fun unless done deliberately as a stunt (or do to a spinning fwd/rev transition, or for the really skilled, a recoverable 360-degree spin).

Crap like this is where professional instruction at a track comes in REALLY handy.

End-swapping/snap oversteering behaviour is typical of vehicles with a rear weight bias. Imagine a weathervane, and that's bsically what rear engined cars do, they'll slide with their heavy end going first (in the case of cars like a 911, the motor -of course- hangs out well beyond the rear axle).

ANother note: mid engine cars will oversteer, and they'll most certainly spin, but they *generally* don't suffer from end-swapping snap oversteer as badly as rear-engined cars do.

Okay sorry for the long-winded explanation... back to the subject at hand.

BTW a well-built kit would be a lot of fun! I'd have to look at one of these in person before passing judgement on how well-built it is though.
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Just shopping on ebay & found this one:
Never heard of this Type 4 engine.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-...QQcmdZViewItem
The Raby Spyder, a 2005 Chamonix/Beck 550 Spyder built by Raby's Aircooled Technology and DTM Engineering, complete with a MassIVe Type 4 from Aircooled Technology.

The leader in Type 4 engine development brings to you this 2005 Spyder replica with only 1000 miles (1330km actual) since completion, built for demonstration purposes. This is a one of a kind Spyder replica, built with the driver in mind. Powered by a 185hp 2270cc MassIVe type 4 with 187 lb/ft of torque, this Sypder both looks and is fast. The engine, while very powerful is also very docile on the street at cruise and around town with it's powerband making gross power below 6,000 RPM. Built to document type 4 power in a 550 Porsche replicar, no detail was left unfinished and no expense spared for our documentary. This custom engine and transaxle have a retail value of 16,000.00 alone!
http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/galleries/spyder/

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