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post #21 of 44 (permalink) Old 11-24-2016, 10:26 AM
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Refer to page 232 of the owner manual for jump starting instructions.

As for charging, use any one of several available adapter cables to connect whatever charger your heart desires.

One reason to place the battery in a low position, which you might not have thought of, might have something to do with the center of gravity, not silly design.
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Yea I get the reasons and as for charging I don't mind buying the ducati one really. My issue is hooking up heated gear which draws too much power for that charger port so I need to run a harness which is a nightmare as far as I can tell. I am still looking for a way to get from the battery up to (near the seat) to plug in the jacket, pants, gloves but all the options so far include ugly zip ties and drilling holes. Maybe the solution is out there still ! Thanks for the reply.
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Refer to page 232 of the owner manual for jump starting instructions.

As for charging, use any one of several available adapter cables to connect whatever charger your heart desires.

One reason to place the battery in a low position, which you might not have thought of, might have something to do with the center of gravity, not silly design.
Yup and the conventional routes:

1. Like the old Monster, under the tank: always created a compromised small airbox and the 4v makes more bang and needs more airbox volume than the aircooled motors did in the first place. The new Monster also has a lot more wires and electronics to hide under there anyways.

2. Like UJMs, in the rear subframe: Had a look at the Monster's subframe? Thin and delicate to create that svelte stinger rear which would be bollocked up with a battery. Also tiny packaging problem with the rear shock.

3. Like the superbikes, strapped to the side of the frame: yeah, no.


Not that I'm a fan of the arrangement, makes living with the bike a little more tedious and since I do miles, I worry about having to screw with it on the road but (fingers crossed) how often to you really have to mess with it? But I do realize engineering is a compromise. The vexing part isn't so much about the location of the battery as it is they piled a bunch of stuff on top of it making it hard to get to the poles.

For the adventurous, I got to fiddling around with putting the warmnsafe heated gear lead on the battery since the shop left my battery tender one off (note I didn't change it for any particular reason other than it suits my gear setup better, could've just put the SAE ended harness back on) and by grounding the harness at the ground point on the motor, I didn't have to access the one on the battery and therefore didn't have to drop the battery. DO KEEP IN MIND that big chunky metal screw thing on the positive of the battery will be hot and take GREAT care when tightening it down not to ground your wrench or ratchet on something metal. Otherwise you might have an enlightening moment. Not that I encountered that. Nope. Not at all.
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DO KEEP IN MIND that big chunky metal screw thing on the positive of the battery will be hot and take GREAT care when tightening it down not to ground your wrench or ratchet on something metal. Otherwise you might have an enlightening moment. Not that I encountered that. Nope. Not at all.
Most of the time the big light show isn't the main problem, its the head jerk and tool fling that adds to the excitement.

Myself, I disconnect the batt ground cable from the frame because sparks scare me.
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How do you guys run extra cables directly to the battery without making new holes in the battery box? Could you post a photo? I'm just worried about water getting into the box.Thanks,
I don't have a photo unfortunately but my tech and I (mostly him) made a notch (not a hole) to pass the SAE wire out.
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How do you guys run extra cables directly to the battery without making new holes in the battery box? Could you post a photo? I'm just worried about water getting into the box.

Thanks,

If it is only one or two wires, you can fish them into the batt box by following the stock wiring. That is what I meant by "piggy backing" in my earlier reply. Just guessing how many wires you could do because I've only needed to do one (QS).
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Under seat connection is only for charging/ diagnostics and won't support any higher volt pull
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Lol ... Dropping the battery isn't an issue, it's raising it that's a pain. I used my car jack to push everything in that battery compartment back to flush.
spray the battery cradle with some lube fist, itíll slip right up.

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Yea I get the reasons and as for charging I don't mind buying the ducati one really. My issue is hooking up heated gear which draws too much power for that charger port so I need to run a harness which is a nightmare as far as I can tell. I am still looking for a way to get from the battery up to (near the seat) to plug in the jacket, pants, gloves but all the options so far include ugly zip ties and drilling holes. Maybe the solution is out there still ! Thanks for the reply.
Let me be clear in no uncertain terms! For anything drawing more than a couple of amps, you must connect directly to the battery. A heated jacket alone will draw 5~6 amps. Add a pair of gloves and you're now close to 10A. Use 16AWG wire (with fuse) as well which can handle the current. The DDA port is for data, battery tenders and low drawing electronics ONLY. Otherwise you will blow a fuse or worst.

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