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Best exhaust
Do you need to re-map
With a SC PROJECT OR arrow exhaust does a fault show?
Nothing to stop you from remapping any time you want to but, that is not to say that it is necessary. Several criteria can be improved upon just about any time that a remap is done. But that does not make it necessary. SC Project is not the only supplier of slip ons to state that a remap is not necessary for their product.
I have an 1100 evo with a PCV AutoTune on it. Every time I look at the trim table it recommends changes. I stopped doing the changes when it became apparent that I could not detect any difference in the way the bike ran. I'm just not good enough of a rider to need, and be able to use, perfection. Others may be.
I went with the Termi's, had the pipes thrown in on the final cost of the R. Dont know what they sound like or look like other than pics. Will be back stateside in a few days to start riding.
First of all, there aren't going to be many of us 1200 R owners.
Second of all, we ALL want a better exhaust system and not many of us are willing to pay $1700 for the Termignonis.
Third, IMHO, slip-ons are the way to go for our bike because we already have updated, larger diameter headers. I'll admit it, I want less weight and the cool SOUND! the "3%" of claimed BHP increase way up top in the powerband isn't really what I'm after.
Fourth, most of us aren't going to wait around for seemingly uninterested manufacturers--COUGH: Competition Werkes--to throw something together.
All that said, some manufacturers--COUGH: R&G--seem to have rushed too quickly and came out with garbage (e.g. R&G tail tidy and R&G exhaust hanger).
I definitely do not care for the Termi 1 into 2 can design. Makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever. Also, having disassembled several Termis to core them for friends, I am less than impressed with their material and assembly quality. I know many in this community are dedicated to them and that is fine, but I am not one of them.
I tried to contact several exhaust companies inquiring if they had plans to do an R exhaust and most never replied. CompWerkes, ShiftTech and SC-Project did. Having used Akrapovic once before, I wanted to consider them also, but did not care for their overall length. I am glad to see that plans for a Shift-Tech product has now been posted. When I first contacted them their reply was less than encouraging because they kept trying to tell me that the normal 1200 can would also fit the R. Several attempts to tell them that the system diameter was different did not seem to change their mind. Glad that that got worked out.
As of this morning I was still contemplating CW and SC-P. I had a fair understanding of the CW can, having had one on my evo. I still had a few questions about the SC-P that I could not figure out on my own so I called them. I spoke with Brandon who was very knowledgeable and answered my questions to my satisfaction. I mulled it over a bit more and then placed an order for the SC-Project CF Conic. I picked the Conic over the Oval purely because I think it looks better. The SC-P S1 was not a realistic consideration because it does not accommodate a DB killer. IMO the SC-P Conic looks better than the CW and I really like that it comes with a relatively longer link pipe which should provide a bit more heel room.
Since SC-P cans are made to order it will be several weeks before I receive mine. I do suspect that they probably stock some of the more popular bike systems. In the interim I'll be fabricating a hanger out of 4130 tubing. I really do not care for passenger pegs on Monsters and remove them. Even though I still have the stock exhaust, one of the first things I did to my R was to remove the peg bracket and replace it with a temporary one I fabricated out of 0.312" 6061.
So, once it gets here and installed I'll post pics. :smile
27 years you say? Easy, hacksaw all that crap off and exhaust clamp ones of these on. Don't forget a stage III Factory jet kit.
Not sure on the cat, don't believe it's removed when you go the slip on route?
As for the flapper, IMHO (as other's will disagree), it's just there to pass noise regs. You could gut it or hack it off and not make a difference other than noise.
Also, you're a liar, exhaust flappers totally existed 27 years ago.
Ok, got me there as my last bike was indeed an FZR1000 with an EXUP exhaust and valve. Is the Duc does the same, then I understand how it works. Cheers for the reply
This is a Monster 1200S slip on and link pipe by Akrapovic. on a 1200R
They have no plans to do the bracket any time soon.
I think I am going for it. With a carbon fiber can
Seems easy to build a hanger for it. Heck, I remember when there were no hangers and the Yoshi exhaust stuck out like 400 feet!
The flapper provides low end resistance to give the motor something to work against during low RPM. It means more torque, a lot of high end vehicles have them, like my Ferrari 430.
Just ordered an SC Conic for my 1200R. I'm feed up with keep hitting my heel on the standard lump of a can every time I move my feet on the pegs. Excellent value for money compared to the only other offering i've found (Termi) this side of the Atlantic (UK).
I like the look of the conic on the R and hope the quality is as good as the website photogallery shows when it arrives. The website states 15 working day delivery here in Europe but this is the Italians we are talking about and they do seem to work to a different calendar to us. That said it's under half the price of the termi here in the UK at £335 (400 Euro) so that's a saving worth waiting a week or two for.
Look forward to hearing about that. It's WELL cheaper than Termi's - I thought it was £1350 for the 1200R and thst includes an ECU remap that they say us needed, even though nearly every other manufacturer says just skip on the end can as-is
I haven't really looked at the Termi price personally but the salesman at the Stealership had them fitted to his and told me £750.
My main concern about the SC Project is going to be if they deliver anywhere near to the quoted timescale. A lot of the Triumph boys rate the SC Project stuff on the Speed Triples so I thought I'd take a chance at the price.
I'm not too worried about power gains as longs as it doesn't leave holes in the power curve. It's more about the looks and foot positioning for me as I hate the standard pipes but that wasn't going to put me off of buying the bike. I'm only up to just over 300 mile at the mo but that will be getting racked up a bit next month as I'm off for a lap of France at the start of July after my 1st service.
I've been in email contact with UK importers for Akrapovic (nice guy) and they have checked / confirmed that the 1200S slip on has a diameter of 65mm where it would connect to the downpipes. I've measured my 1200R and it's only 62mm. We were both surprised.
So, I've no idea how @hairymeister has got his fitting !! Bespoke link pipe ?????
Ian. not sure how he has mounted it unless he's sleeved the link pipe or had one swaged out to suit.
on a plus note I just got confirmation that my pipe is being dispatched so I should get it this week sometime. will post up some pics before I fit it so you can see if the quality is any good. with the exchange rate it worked out around £330.
It fits. No issues, at all. Not sure where people are pulling their measurements from, but here's pics of a 1200S Akra on a 1200R with their 1200S link pipe. No custom link pipe needed, no mods to it, no leaks.
The mounts do not line up (I cut mine off the passenger peg bracket and moved it.
Ian. not sure how he has mounted it unless he's sleeved the link pipe or had one swaged out to suit.
on a plus note I just got confirmation that my pipe is being dispatched so I should get it this week sometime. will post up some pics before I fit it so you can see if the quality is any good. with the exchange rate it worked out around £330.
The SC Project Conic high level silencer for the 1200R arrived today.
Pleasantly surprised that our Italian friends delivered to the UK in just over a week from placing the order.
The initial view is that it looks great quality and well made :nerd and a hell of a lot better than the original scrap metal. It comes with all the springs and fitting kit as required and even a "removed-able" baffle to keep the noise boys happy at UK track days.
Will try to fit it tomorrow and report back on fitment and sound. I'll be too busy to get out most of the weekend and the bikes not had it's 1st service yet but i'll report back on performance when I can. :grin
The SC Project Conic high level silencer for the 1200R arrived today.
Pleasantly surprised that our Italian friends delivered to the UK in just over a week from placing the order.
The initial view is that it looks great quality and well made :nerd and a hell of a lot better than the original scrap metal. It comes with all the springs and fitting kit as required and even a "removed-able" baffle to keep the noise boys happy at UK track days.
Will try to fit it tomorrow and report back on fitment and sound. I'll be too busy to get out most of the weekend and the bikes not had it's 1st service yet but i'll report back on performance when I can. :grin
Glad to read about it! Today makes a month that I've been waiting for mine. Guess it takes a long time for a raft to float here. :devil
Is the supplied logo a decal or a rivet on piece? Also curious about the weight. Was it by chance marked on the package?
the fit was a bit of an issue with the link pipe not fitting far enough onto the downpipes. basically they swage the pipe to a larger diameter where it goes on. they haven't done this on a long enough section so the bolt holes were about 15 mm out at the rear. I took a few mm off the link pipe where it joins the silence... not too much so the springs still work. I then opened up the bracket on all 3 holes to move it forward. I also used the original rear mouting spacer rather than the one in the kit as it makes the fix more solid.
noise wise. with it without the baffle seems to make little difference. its an odd sound as it's a 2-1 system. im use to deep booming termis on 996 and 899.
performance. at the min I can't see much if a gain but im still running in so not going too hard or high on the revs.
all that said it's well made and looks great in my opinion. the fitment isn't really an issue if you think about how to get the extra mm's needed rather than just swearing and throwing it about ?
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